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Vanity: Is it smart for Newt to avoid attacking Romney's record?
Me | VMIVol00

Posted on 12/17/2011 12:07:45 PM PST by vmivol00

Although I think that it admirable that Newt has chosen to avoid attacking the other candidates, I wonder if it is going to hurt him and conservatives.

No one, including the "conservative" media seems to want to examine Romney's record or his actions. Instead they just lap up what ever the flavor of the week that he is spewing. Since no one is actually discussing his record, Romney is able to pretend to be the conservative choice. Personally I don't see much daylight between Zero and Romney. Both support socialized healthcare, support weapons bans, support global warming, appoint liberal judges, refused to support states who were trying to reform public unions, etc. As a matter of fact Zero defines the rich at $250k, while Romney defines the boundary at $200k. Romney also bragged about not supporting Reagan.

I think it is a mistake for Newt to not call Romney out on his record...even more so, I think it's a mistake for true conservatives to not openly discuss and highlight the fact that he has more similarities to zero than to Reagan.

Unfortunately I don't have alot of faith in the electorate....general or GOP. I'm afraid the majority of primary voters will rely on "conservatives" like NRO to tell them who they should vote for. Someone...if not Newt, needs to make the primary electorate is properly educated on Romney's record and actions.

If this is posted in the wrong place, I apologize. Please just move it. Thanks for reading my discussion point/rant.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: newt; romney
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1 posted on 12/17/2011 12:07:49 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: vmivol00

Nah, he needs to start hitting Romney hard on it.

I suspect that once the static white noise candidates (Bachmann, etc.) drop out after the 1st few primaries, it’ll allow a more concentrated venue for Newt to start hammering away at Romney and exposing him for the POS he is.


2 posted on 12/17/2011 12:10:26 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: vmivol00

I think Newt should contrast his vision/record but not attack Romney.


3 posted on 12/17/2011 12:10:35 PM PST by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

That’s a much better way to state it. Thanks.

I really think he needs to start doing this in Iowa and SC. If he allows Romney to shape the field too much, it will be too late.

Maybe I’m over reacting, but I’m afraid Newt and the media have already let Romney slide too far without discussing his record.

I find it laughable that Romney would say that the Tea Party will fall away from Newt once they learn more about him. Does he really believe tha his record lines up with the Tea Party, or is he just comfortable with the idea that he can say anything without anyone like AnnCoulter or NRO challenging him?


4 posted on 12/17/2011 12:17:42 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Perdogg, I agree. For one thing, NG already pledged to keep his campaign positive; for another, Romney doesn’t appear to be campaigning at all, or at least there’s not a hint of any coverage of it around here, and FReepers post everything. :’) Each time Mittwit is treated like the front-runner, he wins.

The day the tea party embraces Mitt Romney is the day the tea party accepts defeat
Vanity | Dec 17, 2012 | Jim Robinson
Posted on 12/17/2011 12:08:08 PM PST by Jim Robinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2821720/posts


5 posted on 12/17/2011 12:28:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: vmivol00

My other thought is this:

Being the Not-Obama candidate isn’t going to be enough to win. The GOP nominee is going to need a fired up base to go out and actively support him. This base has to be built out of passionate political diehards...like the readers of FreeRepublic. It should be noted that independents and centrists lack the passion and thus can not and will not serve as a base that is capable of defeating Zero. Based upon his views and his polling numbers in the primary, Romney clearly can’t assemble the required base.

GOP voters are tired of being portrayed as stupid. I think that is one of the reasons Newt has had the success that he has had. He is very articulate and no one can accuse him being stupid. He will make Obama look even more like a stuttering fool than he already does. Secondly, he has proven he isn’t afraid to tangle with the media or Obama. GOP voters are tired of the silk panty GOP establishment. We want someone who punch the opposition in the mouth (figuratively of course). Romney clearly ( and by his own admission) will not carry the fight forward.

Anyway, based on those views (as well as those posted above), I am absolutely convinced that Obama gets four more years if Romney is the nominee.


6 posted on 12/17/2011 12:31:30 PM PST by vmivol00
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To: vmivol00

The beauty of this is that Newt’s hands stay clean and it leaves a wealth of gotchas out there for the surrogates to use. If we get down to the last push before the convention, Romney or one of his will always be there for the stupid quote that “frees” Newt to drop a full salvo at a time too close for damage control.
Just good politics.


7 posted on 12/17/2011 12:44:38 PM PST by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: vmivol00

For now, it is a smart policy. Newt is likely to win the Iowa Caucuses with Rue Paul coming in second and Romney a distant third. Attacking Romnobama’s record can do little good for Gingrich and can upset those who emote over how people are treated. [Aside: Dressing up in white with a hairdo like Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s do and then attacking Newt without having the facts straight did not help Rep. Bachmann. She all but committed caucus suicide by stating, “I am a serious candidate for President.” If she has to say that, she isn’t.]

Newt needs to criticize Romnobama’s policies in New Hampshire without criticizing Nitt or Mitt or whatever nickname Willard is using. If he can convince the primary voters in New Hampshire that Willard’s health care for Massachusetts policies are the blueprint for Romnobamacare—which they are, Willard is likely to be booted to the curb in New Hampshire. Again, attacking Willard will not work, but criticizing his misguided policies will.

Finally, Newt does not want to destroy Willard even though Willard’s ideas and past history in Massachusetts are/were seriously flawed. After all, Newt will have to pick—most likely one of the others who were on stage during last Thursday’s “debate” as his running mate. Let’s look at a few of those people from Newt’s perspective.

Bachman: A person who has trouble telling fact from fiction, who is wrong on simple historical facts, who is an intellectual lightweight.

Rue Paul: A person whose would attempt to turn American foreign policy so far inward that we might as well change the Secretary of State behind all of the other cabinet secretaries in the line of succession and do away with the National Security Council—or just reduce the principals on that council from four to three—the POTUS, the VPOTUS, and the SecDef.

Jon Huntsman, Jr.: A bright enough guy, but he is no Jon Huntsman, Sr. The reason his has been steady with about 1% in polling is because so few people could pick him out of a line up.

Gary Johnson: Put him in the same line up with Huntsman. The only way people would be able to pick him out of the line up is if he were allowed to toke on a doobie.

If Newt is the nominee, he may need Mitt as his running mate. It makes no sense for a candidate to be so abrasive in the “debates” as to damage those whose support he will need—not that Willard will provide that much support—he didn’t in Massachusetts to people running in the election which elected Obama-lite a/k/a Duval Patrick—as governor, but driving Willard to the sidelines is not a wise move.

Notice that Newt did not destroy Bachmann even though she is an intellectual lightweight who cannot tell fact from fiction. He simply stated she did not have the facts right and waited (about fifteen seconds) for her to press her self-destruct button.


8 posted on 12/17/2011 2:10:12 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama means crooked.)
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To: vmivol00

Newt just got a 20 million boost to start a PAC- couldn’t a PAC put out - not negative attacks, just showing mittens proven record ? - which is definitely negative...

mitten is smarmy - Bachmann is a snake - neither can win on their records...

Far from presidential material


9 posted on 12/17/2011 3:12:25 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: vmivol00; All

REVOLUTION!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VP2p91dvm6M

BAYONETS!

Newt has said he’d like this guy for his VP = no one could beat this ticket...and this guy is open to it

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/elisabethmeinecke/2011/11/28/gingrich_mentions_marco_rubio,_allen_west_as_potential_running_mates

Two peas in pod - Dynamic, historians, Constitutionalists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnppWKlSEsw

This ticket would light America on fire...


10 posted on 12/17/2011 3:23:35 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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