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To: tet68
Yet some people would call that hell.

Yes, I know one of them!

Anyway, the point I was trying to get at is that most people have a very naive and materialistic concept of what comes after the body's death. I'm more in tune myself with T.S. Eliot's famous lines:

And what the dead had no speech for, when living,
They can tell you, being dead: the communication
Of the dead is tongued with fire,
beyond the language of the living.

57 posted on 12/17/2011 10:10:27 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Aristides the Rhetor, who writes, "Eleusis is a shrine common to the whole earth... it is both the most awesome and the most luminous. At what place in the world have more miraculous tidings been sung, and where have the dromena called forth greater emotion, where has there been greater rivalry between seeing and hearing?"
62 posted on 12/17/2011 12:16:20 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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