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To: BladeBryan
The question he’s considering is the “eligibility to the office of the presidency of a child born of American parents at sea or in a foreign territory”. He concluded that they are natural born citizens, not that the native born are not, certainly not post 14’th Amendment.

Irrelevant. Here's what he wrote:

Let me repeat the important part for you: Now, if it was intended that anybody who was a citizen by birth should be eligible, it would only have been necessary to say, "no person except a native-born citizen," but the framers thought it wise, in view of the probable influx of European immigration, to provide that the President should at least be the child of citizens owing allegiance to the United States at the time of his birth."

You wanted a post-WKA reference to two-citizen-parents. You have it. Now are you going to admit you were wrong? I seriously doubt it.

WildSnail wrote: “I’ve told you before that I worried that my now six-year-old son (i.e. pre-Obama) would not be eligible for the presidency since his mother was just a permanent resident. You blew off that comment, and those of several others here, claiming we made it all up post-2008 to support our idea.”

Your recollection of a worry? And why didn’t you just look it up in /Black’s Law Dictionary/, the one the U.S. Supreme Court most frequently cites, as West Publishing wants us all to know? Was it so important to you that your son not be eligible that you played constitutional scholar and searched for justification to disqualify him?

Why on God's green earth would I look it up in Black's? Why would I search for justification to disqualify him? Here, let me type real slow so you can understand it: M.y. .p.e.r.m.a.n.e.n.t. .r.e.s.i.d.e.n.t. .w.i.f.e. .w.a.s. .p.r.e.g.n.a.n.t. .a.n.d. .i.t. .o.c.c.u.r.r.e.d. .t.o. .m.e. .t.h.a.t. .m.y. .s.o.n. .w.o.u.l.d. .b.e. .u.n.q.u.a.l.i.f.i.e.d. .f.o.r. .p.r.e.s.i.d.e.n.t. .b.e.c.a.u.s.e. .I. .w.a.s. .a.w.a.r.e. .o.f. .t.h.e. .t.w.o.-.c.i.t.i.z.e.n.-.p.a.r.e.n.t.s. .r.e.q.u.i.r.e.m.e.n.t. l.o.n.g. .b.e.f.o.r.e. .I. .e.v.e.r. .h.e.a.r.d. .o.f. .B.H.O!

Do you get it now? Do you understand you are calling me a liar? Without any proof whatsoever, but just because to want to believe that nobody believed the two-citizen-requirement prior to 2008? Please go the f!@# away you imbecilic perfidious poltroon.

146 posted on 12/20/2011 12:19:13 AM PST by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: WildSnail
Eh, figures I'd get the image tag wrong...


147 posted on 12/20/2011 12:24:14 AM PST by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: WildSnail
Amazing. Pre Obama, I have a child born with same circumstance. My ex wife, in a child support hearing told the state that my child with my new wife was not a US citizen. I said she was born here, so she is a citizen. My Ex knew my child was born here. She worked in the hospital as an RN, in the maternity ward, and I had to make special orders that she could not touch the child or go near my new wife! They had to keep the baby next to her mother at all times. My Ex actualy had to buzz me into the maternity ward to see my wife and newborn! So yes, being born to a foreign citizen cause lots of confusion.

I remember being told about two citizen parents almost 40 years ago. I remember where the the teacher was standing in the classroom, and the expression on her face. Even as a kid, politics fascinated me, along with beautiful teachers.
As a child of 4, I had a poster of all Presidents on my bedroom wall, and I still remember it.

I remember telling my daughter , summer of 2008, that he wasn't qualified. It was so fricking unreal, the thought of electing someone with dual citizenships at birth. But Jackass McCain wouldn't allow anyone to put a glove on Obama. McCain succeeded.

154 posted on 12/20/2011 7:14:28 PM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: WildSnail

WildSnail asked: “Why on God’s green earth would I look it up in Black’s? Why would I search for justification to disqualify him?”

To find the answer, of course.

WildSnail asked: “Why would I search for justification to disqualify him?”

That’s my question yes. With the legal authorities in our time in agreement that your native-born son is potentially eligible, why would you look for fringe theories arguing he’s not? Why not just accept the overwhelming evidence that he is? It makes no sense.

WildSnail asked: “Do you get it now? Do you understand you are calling me a liar?”

There’s a big difference between calling you a liar and asking for the evidence that what you say is true. I’m not looking for stories of the recollections of people posting behind pseudonyms. And spare me the e-tantrums; people constantly make up stories that I’m some paid propagandist.


156 posted on 12/20/2011 7:43:40 PM PST by BladeBryan
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