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To: EternalVigilance

“More nonsense. The protection of every person’s God-given, unalienable right to live, from their creation until natural death, is not in any way a tyranny, as your post would suggest. The complete opposite is true.”

It is when the Federal goverment does it in our States. No such power exist in the Federal Constitution.

Like it or not in America domestic issues like murder(IE the protection of life) are State NOT Federal issues.


“All officers of government in this republic, in every branch, at every level, have sworn an oath, as they are required by Article Six, Section 3 to do, to provide due process and equal protection for all persons for their rights to life, liberty and property.”

I’m afraid I’m aware of an oath to uphold the Federal AND state constitutions but not one to violate the same constitution by intruding into unauthorized domains.

PS: Not that I recognize the 14th Amendment as legitimate(Given it was ratified literally under the gun) “due process of law” necessarily does involve “law”, not whatever you happen to think should be law.


“And all the States are guaranteed a republican form of government under our Constitution. You cannot have one of those, in the American sense, without the above. It’s not possible.”

A republican goverment is of course a goverment of laws not men. That does not however require laws no matter how “universal” you think they are. Men in REAL Republics are in fact free to pick & choose which laws they consent to being governed by.

Having “EternalVigilance’s stamp of approval” is not a qualification for being a republic.


58 posted on 12/17/2011 8:32:46 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Men are not “free to pick and choose” whether our rights are unalienable. If they were, they would be man-granted instead of God-given, and therefore subject to the arbitrary whims of men. I’m sorry you don’t understand this fundamental, self-evident moral, natural law truth upon which the American republic was and is premised. Sadly, you’re not a rarity these days.


59 posted on 12/17/2011 8:39:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With God Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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To: Monorprise
Not that I recognize the 14th Amendment as legitimate

Of course you don't. Like Ron Paul, that part of the document is snipped out. Along with the Fifth Amendment, which has the exact same explicit, imperative requirement, that no person in this country shall be deprived of life without a fair trial on a capital offense.

60 posted on 12/17/2011 8:46:49 PM PST by EternalVigilance (With God Obama can't hurt us. Without God, George Washington couldn't save us.)
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