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Bless the Beasts (Should conservatives care about animal suffering?)
National Review ^ | 12/16/2011 | Claire Berlinski

Posted on 12/16/2011 7:29:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Stupid article, written by a liberal nut.

Anti-hunting, anti-farming, liberal BS!

41 posted on 12/16/2011 8:13:12 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: dfwgator

sez you. Do you think it better to have people living in tent cities. I think Christian values would help. Where is your Christian concern for others? hating the poor is not appropriate. It is really a matter of “there but for the grace of God go I.” In a bad economy, hating the poor is especially hard hearted.


42 posted on 12/16/2011 8:13:43 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Fawn

I certainly recognize it, my point is there are others who expand their definition of it, as with a lot of other things, to infringe on our rights.


43 posted on 12/16/2011 8:13:52 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Should liberals?


44 posted on 12/16/2011 8:14:17 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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To: yoe

Ryan

I hate zoos for reasons like you have stated. Separating elephants after 30 years together, sick, cruel. Sending elephants to a hideous place like Chicago so they can freeze? sick, cruel.


45 posted on 12/16/2011 8:15:51 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

I have concern for others, in fact, by making Government the conduit for human compassion, takes away that responsibility from the rest of us....most people consider paying their taxes as “giving at the office” as far as helping the poor.


46 posted on 12/16/2011 8:16:31 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Slings and Arrows
No, but when spiders walk across the floor, this kitty has a problem with them:

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47 posted on 12/16/2011 8:18:57 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: SeekAndFind

“Should conservatives care about animal suffering?”

Only if it makes them more tender.


48 posted on 12/16/2011 8:23:54 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: 1rudeboy

The more you love, the more you can love — and the more intensely you love. Nor is there any limit on how many you can love. If a person had time enough, he could love all of that majority who are decent and just.
Heinlein


49 posted on 12/16/2011 8:26:43 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I've not yet noticed that anyone who cares for animals is diminished in his capacity to care for humans.

Caring for the welfare of animals does not imply a lack of care for humans, but nor should it lead one to presume the opposite. Up to the moment he tested his cyanide capsules on the poor beast Adolph Hitler absolutely loved his dog.

And one noticeable theme of today's watermelon Green movement is that while adoring (in a pagan religious sense) nature they openly advocate the elimination of mankind (except, of course, their enlightened selves) from the face of Mother Gaia. Show me a radical Green and I'll show you the perfect little Fascist.

50 posted on 12/16/2011 8:28:55 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: americanophile
“”“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”

- Mohandas Gandhi””

That cornball quote doesn't quite fit in with Nazi Germany. Hitler was a vegan, animal nut who even sent out instructions to German farmers calling for more humane ways to slaughter animals. Part of his mindset dovetails nicely with the PETA nuts who are all in for animals, but could care less about the murder of babies via abortion.

51 posted on 12/16/2011 8:34:20 AM PST by ohioman
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To: ohioman
who even sent out instructions to German farmers calling for more humane ways to slaughter animals.

That wasn't done for humane reasons, it was a way to stop Jews from slaughtering animals in the Kosher tradition.

52 posted on 12/16/2011 8:37:29 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Fawn
The Bible makes no reference to animals having souls. There are no animals in heaven. They are put here for our use. We are however, required to treat them well. That is in the Bible. We are the top of God's love and we are given many things for our pleasure. We are judged on what we do with God's property.

To infer that animals will go to Heaven is spreading wives tales to people too lazy to find out for themselves. It's sorta like saying "God helps those that help themselves." It not in the Bible. In fact, reading the Bible could infer that God is more likely to help those that cannot help themselves.

Over the years, this fallacy of animals going to heaven has gotten under my skin because it fosters people doing stupid things like running into a burning building to save a cat or killing a human for killing a dog. This is where the eco freaks come up with wanting humans dead to save animals. We have people in California suffering 40% unemployment and loosing a lifetime of wealth over a minnow.

In my mind, to put a dog as equal to humans is an abomination. You will most likely end up like the woman living with a chimp that tears the face off her best friend. I personally know people that had their child attacked by their dogs because they failed to recognize the dogs couldn't be trusted. The dogs are not equal to their child. Do these dogs go to hell because they got jealous of the child? They are just dumb animals that have no soul to be judged.

53 posted on 12/16/2011 8:37:41 AM PST by chuckles
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To: ohioman

Well, luckily Gandhi wasn’t from Nazi Germany. Otherwise, it’s something of a non sequitur.


54 posted on 12/16/2011 8:37:45 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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To: dfwgator
You are right about the Kosher tradition, but he also expressed genuine concern about the suffering of animals. Today, he would be a popular professor at one one of our leftist, Ivy League Colleges. The anti-Israel stuff would go over quite well with the leftist “elite.” :)
55 posted on 12/16/2011 8:42:54 AM PST by ohioman
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To: SeekAndFind

I care about animal suffering. But, I absolutely hate, HATE that commercial(can’t remember even who puts the ad out but, I see it on FOX every now and again). There will always be animal suffering. The only thing we can do about it, is to treat our own animals well and report any abuse we see.


56 posted on 12/16/2011 8:44:31 AM PST by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: americanophile

Gandi wasn’t from the USA either; therefore, my statement is logical.

He also came from a country that never learned the emotional value of a delicious steak sitting alongside corn on the cob and mashed potates. :)


57 posted on 12/16/2011 8:50:15 AM PST by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Gandhi was also a supporter of Hitler.


58 posted on 12/16/2011 8:53:34 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Beagle8U

How do you know it’s stupid? You didn’t read it.


59 posted on 12/16/2011 9:01:09 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: allmendream

One thing that makes this sort of a thread humorous is the argument that people cannot walk and chew gum at the same time.


60 posted on 12/16/2011 9:04:24 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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