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To: shortstop

Has anyone asked why Newt is hated by other members?

Could it be as Speaker he did not tolerate deviation from the course as set in the Contract With America?

What did the House Republicans do after they pushed Newt out the door? Did they get more conservative or did they go on a spending spree?

Who is the only candidate who led the effort for a balaned budget and won?

Who is the only candidate who led the effort to reform an entitlement and won?

Who is the only candidate who led the effort to enact term limits and won in the House?

You can tell me Newt is mean, you can tell me Newt said X or Y or Z, but I will go by Newt’s RECORD as an elected member of the House.


45 posted on 12/16/2011 6:41:01 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi
"What did the House Republicans do after they pushed Newt out the door? Did they get more conservative or did they go on a spending spree?"

Ding~! Ding~! Ding~! I THINK WE HAVE A WINNER~!

60 posted on 12/16/2011 6:56:11 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Well, Humpty Dumpty has several cracks that I can't overlook-

He supports BIG government with his BIG ideas

He supports mandated health reform

He believes in global warming

He supports planned parenthood funding

He used his position to consult and advise big government programs.

He is an adulterer, not once but three times

I am still looking for a conservative candidate. Right now Newt is the only clown on the bus that at least talks a good game. When the circus starts again in January 2013 it's just a matter of who the new Ring Leader will be at this point. They are all Beltway Insiders looking to make their fortunes bigger.

61 posted on 12/16/2011 6:56:16 AM PST by not2worry
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To: Erik Latranyi
Well said Erik.

I just plagiarized your response.

I copied and forwarded it to everyone on my email acct. list.

80 posted on 12/16/2011 7:31:08 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Erik Latranyi
In all the noise, chaos and tumult, your reasoned arguments for Newt make perfectly good sense. We've had three years of talk, talk, talk, talk, talk...

I'm ready for someone who will take action, and based on his record, Newt is a proven leader.

87 posted on 12/16/2011 7:38:04 AM PST by The Citizen Soldier (I will always remember exactly where I was when Obama made his NCAA picks.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

That is a very good post, Erik! Thanks!


88 posted on 12/16/2011 7:41:48 AM PST by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: Erik Latranyi
You can tell me Newt is mean, you can tell me Newt said X or Y or Z, but I will go by Newt’s RECORD as an elected member of the House.

You know, that's a durn good point.

We hear two things against Newt all the time:

1) He was so horrible he had to be relieved of command in the House by the "good Republicans," and

2) He's just another "establishment, political insider" that the GOP "leadership" is trying to select for us.

Yet, has anyone else noticed how fundamentally in discord these two theses really are?

Let's see, Newt is an insider - but he was undercut and removed from his leadership position by political insiders like Dick Armey in the House. Republicans in the House who then went on the basically reverse the conservative course of the Republican Congress by jumping on board with new "entitlement" programs and "reaching across the aisle" to the Democrats more and more often and extensively.

When Newt was there, the GOP held the course. When Newt was gone, they quickly folded back into the Party of Socialism Lite.

It sounds to me like Newt was actually removed from his House leadership position because he was getting in the way of the go-along-to-get-along mentality of the GIOP establishment.

95 posted on 12/16/2011 8:08:18 AM PST by Yashcheritsiy
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To: Erik Latranyi
Your points about Newt are a great reminder of why he is being attacked by the GOP insiders. I am uncommitted but Newt is definitely a top contender for my vote. Perry was quite improved last nite and I want to hear more from him as well. Both men are loyal pro Americans and I can accommodate a lot of human mistakes and faulty judgments from either of their pasts on that basis alone. I think the debate was more informative of each of the candidates backgrounds and temperament, Michelle Bachman losing in the latter department IMO.
97 posted on 12/16/2011 8:13:47 AM PST by mountainfolk (God Bless the United States of America)
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