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Cold fusion: The impact of Rossi's E-cat to the world
International Business Times ^
| 12/15/11
| ranina sanglap |
Posted on 12/16/2011 6:08:38 AM PST by Titus-Maximus
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Can someone please stop this scam!
To: Titus-Maximus
Which scam is that? Yours?
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:11:05 AM PST
by
John Valentine
(Deep in the Heart of Texas)
To: Titus-Maximus
"changes nickel to copper."
Why stop there? Why not turn iron into gold?
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:12:08 AM PST
by
pabianice
(")
To: Titus-Maximus
I hear it can turn rich suckers into poor saps.
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:15:07 AM PST
by
reagan_fanatic
(A communist is just a liberal in a hurry)
To: pabianice
Powder.patch..ball FIRE!
Because if you had been paying attention instead of sneering there are several theoretical models that allow for the reaction to copper.
There are several papers posted that describe the process, search is your friend.
Sarcasm you are not so good at...
To: Titus-Maximus
I mean, are you worried that someone will trick you into buying an E-Cat against your will?
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:24:55 AM PST
by
John Valentine
(Deep in the Heart of Texas)
To: BallandPowder
Gosh this is WONDERFUL~!!
Let me see it work.
What? He won’t? um... why?
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:26:23 AM PST
by
Mr. K
(Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
To: John Valentine
This process, if it is real, would seem to fly in the face of practically all thermodynamics and the principle of conservation of energy. What is to keep the process from reversing, and in doing so, ABSORB a great deal of energy?
Getting the nuclei of four Hydrogen atoms (protons) to somehow fuse with the nucleus of ANY other element runs into a serious problem, right away. The existing nucleus will RESIST the approach of any additional protons, because of being a like charge, much like a magnet. Only the force of HUGE gravitational pressure will force the nuclei of hydrogen atoms to fuse, and that is what is at the heart of fusion. Which is what ignites the fire within a very large closely packed quantity of hydrogen, is this very great gravitational pressure.
This will not occur at anywhere near room temperature, or even the temperature of the sun’s surface. It takes the “millions and millions” of degrees of temperature found at the core of a star, plus the pressure.
Nicht moeglich.
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:27:21 AM PST
by
alloysteel
(Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
To: Titus-Maximus
I have a working Bunny F-REP: a food replicator! For real.
I even have a blog that says it’s for real!
I could - all at once - file 20 patents around the world and put a video on YouTube that conclusively shows how my food replicator works but instead, I’m going to pretend that I don’t have a way to protect my invention from everyone on the planet.
So I’m going to need 20 or 30 million dollars to continue to develop it and attract “investors” with closed, unverifiable experiments.
That’ll show everyone. I’ll just stay poor while I dick around and pretend I’ve solved the world’s food supply problems.
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:29:23 AM PST
by
Psycho_Bunny
("Fair share" are the last two words I hear before I stop taking someone seriously.)
To: Titus-Maximus
I’d love to believe this, but I’ve heard about this for going on two years now, and I would have expected by now, E-cats everywhere.
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:29:36 AM PST
by
Lazamataz
(That's all.)
To: reagan_fanatic
Perfect. This I am going to steal....
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:38:39 AM PST
by
Nifster
To: Titus-Maximus
The E-Cat is a cold fusion device that works fuses hydrogen atoms with nickel to transform it into copper. Uh, yeah. What kind of independent test results do you have to verify that?
To: BallandPowder
It would certainly be nice if this were true.
OTOH, if it were true, it would be easy to do a demo that would convince everyone without a doubt.
Pipe E-Cat steam into a turbine, which spins an alternator. Alternator lights up a big array of incandescent light bulbs that form letters that spell out "E-Cat Works."
Wouldn't even be necessary to use the whole 450 kW thermal that they claim. A 20 kW tubine not much bigger than a centrifugal pump for a pool filter would do the trick. I bet some turbomachinery company over in Europe would loan them the hardware for a demo. They'd need a condenser and heat sink for continuous operation, of course.
As I say, this wouldn't be too hard. I mean, it's not like steam-to-electricity technology is exotic.
Such a demonstration would silence the skeptics in one shot. Orders would pour in to Rossi's company. He'd become super-rich overnight, and the mideast oil sheikhs would feel the Earth move beneath their feet.
Why not do it?
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:51:24 AM PST
by
Steely Tom
(Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
To: pabianice
changes nickel to copperSounds like the kind of change our President has brought us.
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posted on
12/16/2011 6:59:19 AM PST
by
frithguild
(Restricting access to capital - Liberalism: The sharpest tool of big business.)
To: Titus-Maximus
Reasons to doubt Rossi
- Still no independent confirmation that the E-Cat does anything useful from any known, credible company, university or other organization.
- Still no independent confirmation that Rossi has any customers.
- In spite of Rossi's claims to have sold his house to pay for it, and in spite of the millions of dollars in alleged sales of his E-Cats, Rossi has still not paid anything to the University of Bologna for testing as he had promised. (LINK)
- No one has found a single record indicating that Rossi's "secret NATO Colonel" really exists.
- Every public demo of the E-Cat was tightly controlled by Rossi, and they all had significant flaws that prevented an honest and full evaluation of his claims.
- NASA investigated Rossi's E-Cat, and determined that Rossi had failed to prove his claim of producing excess energy. (LINK)
- In spite of a coordinated attempt to claim an association with the University of Bologna, there was no such association. (Italian, English)
- The only bit of physical evidence, the "samples" of his "secret" Nickle-based fuel, contradict everything Rossi and his associates have claimed about the process they claim to be occurring in the E-Cat. (LINK, LINK, LINK and LINK)
- Rossi has a web blog he claims is a "Journal". He took the name of an existing scientific journal ("Journal of Nuclear Physics"). (LINK)
- Rossi has partnered up with a man (Sterling D. Allan) who has a long history of supporting energy scams. (Too many links to include: just Google "Sterling Allan scam")
- Rossi's European partner supposedly is selling a "genuine" perpetual motion machine. (LINK)
- Rossi's company and AmpEnergo, the company that supposedly bought the American distribution rights for his E-Cat, have been operating out of the same rental office for the last several years, making it unclear that they are really separate companies at all. (LINK)
And, the biggest reason to doubt Rossi:
- Rossi has a extensive history of racketeering and fraud in Italy. (LINK) (NEW: Documentary about Rossi and his E-Cat HERE. The relevant part about his earlier criminal activities start at 12:00)
To: BallandPowder
It always amazes me that the most ardent advocates of these retarded scams are those who have virtually no background in science, understand nothing of thermodynamics, and probably have a close encounter in their past.
Beep! Beep! Beep!
It's true, I saw it on the internet!!!
I saw a movie about blue-skinned giants who live on a bio-luminescent nature's paradise with flying dragons. Think that's real too? Quick buy your "unobtanium stocks" before they're all gone. LOL!!!
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posted on
12/16/2011 7:10:57 AM PST
by
Sudetenland
(Anybody but Obama!!!!)
To: Psycho_Bunny
" I have a working Bunny F-REP: a food replicator! For real. "You too?
Mine is better. Send me a million dollars and I will set up a demo for you
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posted on
12/16/2011 7:11:50 AM PST
by
Mr. K
(Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
To: frithguild
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posted on
12/16/2011 7:14:06 AM PST
by
Mr. K
(Physically unable to profreed <--- oops, see?)
To: John Valentine
Yeah - I’m asking for money.
Get real.
To: John Valentine
It will only take one of these devices being in private hands, outside of Rossi’s control, and having that device run successfully for many days to demonstrate that Rossi is or is not selling a scam. We will know shortly.
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