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Winnowing the Field [NRO says no to Gingrich, Perry, Bachmann, and Paul]
National Review Online ^ | 12/14/2011 | The Editors @ NRO

Posted on 12/14/2011 4:18:54 PM PST by surfer

We fear that to nominate former Speaker Newt Gingrich would be to blow the opportunity to win the White House next year. —The Editors

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; gingrich; gop; michelebachmann; mittromney; nationalreview; nationalrino; newt; newtgingrich; nr; nr4romney
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To: surfer
What's happened to NR after Buckley died? A sniveling piece with no substantive answers or alternatives. Fairly useless article - complaints about what's wrong with no positive answers as an alternative.

Either they have no answer or they're hiding their choice - then they shouldn't have written the article.

21 posted on 12/14/2011 4:34:02 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: sagar
Why is it that the three know nothings, rush and mark and mark say that bachmann can win. You must think they are just dumb country cousins.
22 posted on 12/14/2011 4:34:50 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: surfer

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Doesn’t anyone at National Review wish to work for a living?


23 posted on 12/14/2011 4:35:35 PM PST by mrsmith (Start electing a 'Tea Party' Majority Leader in 2012 now!)
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To: sagar
Perry is a proven conservative who has lead Texas for the last decade. His only downside is his love for illegal immigration.

I see him a little differently, as an enthusiastic seller of offices who has an elite list of clients for his "services".

The damage he did this year may have been witting and willing, viz., he may have signed on as the RNC/Establishment's Judas horse that Alan Keyes was telling us about last -- January, it turns out, I just went back and looked -- or it's entirely possible he was played by people high up in the GOP hierarchy who wanted a seeming-conservative to bust up the funding flows available to conservatives.

A professional fundraiser being interviewed on talk radio last summer pointed out that Establishment/Yacht Club candidates basically have unlimited funding available, and that sufficient funding from other sources is usually sufficient to fund only one Main Street insurgent campaign each cycle. So guess what the Yacht Clubbers do? Encourage dimwits to jump in and deplete the funds for challengers.

As soon as Rick Perry jumped in, Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain immediately ran into money troubles, supporting the moneyman's comments.

24 posted on 12/14/2011 4:36:20 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: surfer

NRO? Might as well let the DNC pick our candidate.


25 posted on 12/14/2011 4:37:42 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: onyx

They’re sickening.


26 posted on 12/14/2011 4:38:24 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: surfer

Karl Rove and the GOP Establishment bashed Christine O’Donnell and pointed out her flaws. But since everyone hated the establishment more, they failed to reason that O’Donnell was indeed flawed. I think we got our proof last night when she endorsed Romney.

Then, in 2008, there were people (including on this site) that led a campaign to stop John McCain with Mitt Romney, despite the fact that Romney was just as non-conservative if not more so than John McCain. But that was overlooked.

It took 4 years but now people realize Romney is a RINO.

And now, 2012. Newt is a RINO that’s mastered the art of talking two sides of an issue and sounding “above the fray”. But that is being overlooked in an attempt to take down Romney. We all know Newt’s record, but now people want to polish his past non-conservative deeds and misstatements and explain them away. If somebody brings up these valid points about Newt, they get ridiculed, because Rove, NRO, Coulter, and the GOP Establishment came out against Newt.
They can’t get their critical reasoning skills to work beyond that.

This is stupid. NRO and Coulter are both right in pointing out that Newt is NOT the answer. FReepers here that want to blind themselves to this truth solely because they are shilling for RINO Romney, you’re only fooling yourself.

Mark Levin’s Daily Temperature Poll today. Who is more Conservative (Romney or Gingrich)? This question was asked before and many people (including myself) griped there wasn’t a “Neither” choice. Well, there’s one in this poll today. See and vote for yourself.

http://www.marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=2354987&spid=32364

Neither 58%
Gingrich 38%
Romney 4%

A majority of conservatives still realize Newt is NOT the answer. 20 days to fix this disaster with Bachmann, Perry, or Santorum.


27 posted on 12/14/2011 4:39:18 PM PST by parksstp (Articulate Conservatives look for Converts. RINO's look for Democrat Heretics.)
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To: Tzar
These attacks on Newt make him look good ...

Operative word, "look".

28 posted on 12/14/2011 4:39:18 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: sagar

Bravo!


29 posted on 12/14/2011 4:39:38 PM PST by Grunthor (We dont LOVE Newt - heck we barely even like him. He's just the best of a rotten bunch)
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To: surfer

I think for conservatives, the bottom line will come at the Republican National Convention.

Conservatives are “unsatisfied” with the slate being offered. We fear, with considerable justification that they are “more of the same” that have been co-dependents with the Democrats in getting us into this mess. Egotists with uncertain ethics and morals, who speak with forked tongues.

So, about the only real alternative we have left is at the convention. To refuse what has been offered us, and nominate the most acceptable conservative we can.

This means Sarah Palin.

She has been working hard to shore up conservatives for over a year now, while mostly in the background as these other candidates have bashed themselves against the block wall to their detriment.

In practical terms, this means that conservatives must agree long before the convention to be ready to both thwart the candidate the party leadership want, which is most likely the onerous, liberal Romney.

And they must also be ready to face a LOT of pressure from the leadership, along with begging, whining, pleading, etc., insisting that Romney is the *only* candidate who could beat Obama. Let’s face it, the Republican leadership are beggars.

But then, seemingly out of the blue, the whole convention must be turned upside down, with the “unexpected” nomination of Sarah Palin. Conservatives must be completely unified, no matter what candidate they went to the convention to support. After the first ballot does not choose anyone, they are free agents.


30 posted on 12/14/2011 4:39:45 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: sagar

Perry is NOT pro illegal immigration!


31 posted on 12/14/2011 4:42:12 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: surfer

Except Perry is NOT pro illegal alien.


32 posted on 12/14/2011 4:44:58 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: sagar
The only solid choice are Bachmann or Santorum. Both do not have any realistic chance.

Good post, except that there you bit down on the RNC's blackhearted lie, for which they will all burn in the personal Hell of their Congregational forefathers for ever and ever, for defrauding, lying to, and attempting to set the People against the People's own interests.

Remember how sincerely their concern trolls pleaded with us not to vote for Ronald Reagan, that he would most surely lose? Or start a thermonuclear conflagration if he won?

Blackhearted.

33 posted on 12/14/2011 4:48:24 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: surfer

The Establishment speaketh:

Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated. You will vote Romney.

The Establishment’s hysterical Newt Derangement Syndrome on full parade.

It will be interesting to see their real time tweets etc. while to the debate rolls on tomorrow night.


34 posted on 12/14/2011 4:49:44 PM PST by TBBT
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To: sagar

sagar, I would encourage you to go to some of the Perry threads that are posted daily.

Perry is far from a lover of illegal immigration. Just the opposite as he’s had to deal with it in his state. It’s a drain on the finances of the state, which makes it even more of a credit to Perry’s leadership that Texas is doing well in spite of it.


35 posted on 12/14/2011 4:50:28 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: surfer

We must draft, nominate and elect Sarah Palin president in the most crushing tidal wave of enthusiastic good judgment ever seen in the history of this nation. With that one bold move we will accomplish the dual goals of seeing America led by the greatest natural born leader in our generation, even as we witness the final implosion and last agonized shrieks of our endlessly lying extreme left loonies. Their entire movement, from the fabricated attacks on Bush beginning with ‘Blood For Oil’ to the crammed-down-our-gullets lies of Obamacare and the Shovel Ready Stimulus, have been nothing but one vile deceit heaped upon another. Such an absolute inability to deal in the truth or to face the facts of our situation and its solutions only proves that there is simply no place at the grown-ups’ table for these diseased sputa. Good riddance to rubes and bad rubbish. Time to usher in the American Renaissance, carried in on the invigoratingly freshening breeze of President Sarah Palin.


36 posted on 12/14/2011 4:52:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: mylife; surfer; sagar
Except Perry is NOT pro illegal alien.

You're right -- he is pro-billionaire, especially when he helps them crush their employees' wages by supporting massive, uncontrolled illegal immigration and wagebreaking contractors' applications for essentially unlimited H-1B and L-1 visas.

37 posted on 12/14/2011 4:52:49 PM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: onyx

Newt is the most knowledgeable, really? How can someone so “smart” be so stupid with his recent actions and comments. Newt is slimy. No thanks.


38 posted on 12/14/2011 4:53:49 PM PST by chilepup
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To: lentulusgracchus

Sounds like a killer story.
How come there is no proof of these allegations?


39 posted on 12/14/2011 4:54:27 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: surfer

and who does that leave? Romney or Santorum. What is with all the “conservative” media being for Mitt?


40 posted on 12/14/2011 4:57:13 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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