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"Given Iran's behavior to date, we do not expect them to comply," U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said. President Obama reportedly turned down proposals to try to bomb the drone or retrieve it, fearing such an act would be considered an “act of war.”
1 posted on 12/13/2011 11:55:25 AM PST by sevinufnine
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Here’s an idea Mr. President. Blow it out of the sky first time it’s seen in the air.


2 posted on 12/13/2011 11:56:34 AM PST by sevinufnine (Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
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This act alone is enough to get rid of Obamas sorry a$$.


3 posted on 12/13/2011 11:57:20 AM PST by Parley Baer
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Obama not only does huge geopolitical damage but also humiliates us once more.


4 posted on 12/13/2011 11:58:02 AM PST by rod1
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What an embarrassment. I say we destroy it with a bunker buster bomb. If we know where it is, that is.


5 posted on 12/13/2011 11:58:46 AM PST by albionin
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The American President is a laughingstock.

Pathetic.

6 posted on 12/13/2011 11:59:25 AM PST by colorado tanker
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The American President is a laughingstock.

Pathetic.

7 posted on 12/13/2011 11:59:52 AM PST by colorado tanker
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I don’t get it..I thought the world would love us when Bush was out of office?


9 posted on 12/13/2011 12:02:30 PM PST by Leep
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I hate to admit it but my first reaction when I heard of 0bama’s asking was to laugh out loud.

If they say no, will he? Will he? (Oh, he is so scary) Ask again?


10 posted on 12/13/2011 12:03:36 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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Maybe he can give them the secret sauce for enriching Uranium for weapons and they will trade..??..

Or, since they want a nuclear bomb so bad, send one to where the drone is. The Mullah’s can have a front row seat at their first detonation.


11 posted on 12/13/2011 12:04:07 PM PST by IamConservative ("The ability to speak eloquently is not to be confused with having something to say." - MP Hart)
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Obama should fly his buddies from the OWS movement over there. They can pitch tents and stink up the place.

Even Jimmy Carter would not have acted this pathetically.

14 posted on 12/13/2011 12:07:31 PM PST by SamAdams76 (I am 51 days away from outliving Marty Feldman)
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Normally I would call this out as propaganda. But the sad thing is, he probably did beg.


17 posted on 12/13/2011 12:09:14 PM PST by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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I believe this is an impeachable offense, and I don’t say that lightly.


18 posted on 12/13/2011 12:16:11 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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And this drone did not have a self destruct system because...?


23 posted on 12/13/2011 12:22:29 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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Okay the time for nice talk is over. Give these Iranians an ultimatum. Surrender the drone or we send Mooch over their with a couple of 100 human shields and try to beat the record "the most people doing jumping jacks in a muslim country" Curent record: zero.
26 posted on 12/13/2011 12:27:52 PM PST by slackerjack
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“Dumb and Dumber”. The only thing dumber than not destroying it immediately is asking for it back.


28 posted on 12/13/2011 12:31:39 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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I know that it isn’t likely since obambi is involved, but have we considered the possibility of a Trojan horse? Think Stuxnet-like virus loaded drone.


29 posted on 12/13/2011 12:31:54 PM PST by Bob Buchholz
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Obama’s notion of statesmanship and diplomacy wouldn’t work on a playground at a kindergarten. He thinks national leaders will be as malleable as the white liberals he’s more accustomed to shmoozing in Chicago. It would be laughable if he wasn’t bumbling and fumbling the world into armed conflict.


37 posted on 12/13/2011 1:17:57 PM PST by Spok (Who Is Samuel Zemurray?)
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"We have asked for it back. We'll see how the Iranians respond," Obama said ...


"Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"

And now we know.

39 posted on 12/13/2011 2:37:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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President Douche.


41 posted on 12/13/2011 3:22:52 PM PST by quietly desperate (The state is that fiction by which everyone tries to live at everyone's expense.)
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This posted story-theory appears to be bogus ...


I discovered the following information at Free Republic last night (2011-12-17) that appears to factually based ...


Regards,

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Tale of RQ-170 Hijack In Doubt as Told in Tehran


Purported Iranian engineering specialists have been taking liberties with the laws of physics in their descriptions of an electronic hijacking of the RQ-170 unmanned reconnaissance aircraft, say U.S. analyst.


Holes in the account start with the fact that it took days for the Iranians to discover the lost aircraft. In fact, intelligence officials at one point thought the Iranians might simply never stumble across the crash site because it was in such a remote and uninhabited part of northeastern Iran.


Electronic attack of the Sentinel is “certainly possible, but there’s no indication that they even knew it had crashed in Iran for some time,” says a veteran black-projects manager.


That scenario is validated by an aerospace industry ISR specialist, who agreed that “if they were not aware [of the Sentinel’s presence in Iran for days], then there is no reason to believe they had any semblance of control.”


And then there are technical issues that make a hijacking, as described by the Iranians, unlikely.


“Among the reasons to doubt the claim that GPS jamming had anything to do with the loss of the RQ-170 is a simple overlooked fact,” says a third U.S. analyst. “GPS is not the primary navigation sensor for the RQ-170 or for most other air vehicles. The vehicle gets its flight path orders from an inertial navigation system, which is essentially unjammable unless you want to monkey with the local gravitational field.


The GPS updates the INS and cancels its drift. So, even a full GPS blackout would simply cause the vehicle to be a bit less accurate,” he adds.


“If the GPS was ‘spoofed’ with a fake signal — and even JDAMs have anti-spoofing GPS receivers today, so that might be difficult — any abrupt change in the GPS reading would cause the Kalman filters in the GPS/INS to conclude that the GPS was malfunctioning and cut it out of the loop,” he says.


The continuing discussion of why the RQ-170 went down was renewed by a Christian Science Monitor interview with Iranian military technologists who say they were able to “cut off communications links” to the Sentinel using knowledge gathered from the inspection of at least three other U.S.-operated, non-stealthy, unmanned aerial systems (UAS).


The trick, they say, was to scramble the GPS coordinates that guided the aircraft to make it think it was landing at its home base in Afghanistan, and only imprecision in the altitude data caused the Sentinel to land with its wheels up.


The report went on to quote an Iranian engineer as saying the “electronic ambush” was accomplished “by putting noise [jamming] on the communications, you force the bird into autopilot. This is where the bird loses its brain.”


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44 posted on 12/18/2011 11:48:04 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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