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To: EternalVigilance

Most religious “people” are peace loving. Its when you have leaders that hate, and their followers take over, that you have a religion of hate. Most of the people in this world would rather be left alone and kept out of conflict. Its not so much the religion as it is the ones who control it and use it to justify their means. Some day the world will wake up, then again maybe not.


37 posted on 12/11/2011 9:13:41 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO YOU ELECT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT!)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Boy you like to cover all bases, huh? You remind me of the definition of a liberal. “A liberal is someone too broad-minded to take their own side in an argument’’.


45 posted on 12/11/2011 9:19:43 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Its not so much the religion as it is the ones who control it and use it to justify their means.

Mmmm... no, not really. Islam has world domination built right into its foundation. I bought a Koran about 15 years ago and read it through. It's not like Christianity, which promises to rule in Heaven. It's not like Judaism, which is like a little club and if you get in, you have to follow the club rules. It is specifically built and intended for world rule. Rather like Communism.

59 posted on 12/11/2011 9:47:04 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
>"Its not so much the religion as it is the ones who control it and use it to justify their means"

No. It's the religion.


93 posted on 12/11/2011 11:49:12 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

>>>Most religious “people” are peace loving.<<<<

Um... no.

The beliefs that motivate people might aim them towards peace. A religion that contains core beliefs such as turning the other cheek and loving thy neighbor might promote peace. A religion that contains core beliefs about an eightfold path toward enlightenment through contemplative reflection might promote peace. A religion that contains core beliefs about the universal nature of belief in one human family might promote peace.

Islam, on the other hand, regularly and routinely exhorts believers to zealously kill infidels and convert the world through the sword won’t promote peace. There is no Moslem equivalent for Mother Theresa, Saint Francis of Assisi, the Laughing Buddha, Abdul Baha, Black Elk, or any of a thousand other loved religious figures. There is no equivalent to the Salvation Army among the Moslems. There is no moral equivalent to “live and let live.”

It doesn’t matter if most of the believers of a religion are not on the front lines creating the mayhem when the religion itself relentlessly supports those on the front line. Check out polling among Moslems for all sorts of mayhem, ranging from genocide against the Jews to jihad using weapons of mass destruction. Huge majorities of Moslems support those things. It’s supportive of their worldview.

You also seem to miss that Islam is not just a relgion - it’s a form of government and a means of social control using religion as the glue that binds together people. Most of the Koran deals with politics, not religion.

Your statement tells me that you’re a good guy with a large heart. It’s not a universal attribute among Earth’s people. Sorry.


113 posted on 12/11/2011 1:29:50 PM PST by redpoll
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Most religious “people” are peace loving.

Not accurate, because it depends completely upon which religion.

Some religions are based on creating good things.

Other religions are based on destroying good things.

122 posted on 12/23/2011 12:12:17 PM PST by DNA.2012
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