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Was Fast and Furious All About Gun Control?
Powerline ^ | 7 December, 2011 | John Hinderaker

Posted on 12/09/2011 7:01:23 AM PST by marktwain

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1 posted on 12/09/2011 7:01:34 AM PST by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker ping.


2 posted on 12/09/2011 7:02:17 AM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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Can you say “working under the radar”? Sounds like this is what was meant to sarah brady when obie talked to her about the lack of action concerning those evil gun owners.


3 posted on 12/09/2011 7:04:36 AM PST by rktman
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To: marktwain
Yes.

Next question.

4 posted on 12/09/2011 7:05:50 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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If it wasn't about Gun Control, what has the ATF done with the information gleaned from the program as it relates to the stated goal of tracking sales to Mexican drug cartels?

Anybody? Anybody?

Pelosi?

Reid?

Bueller?

Bueller?

5 posted on 12/09/2011 7:06:46 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Treason


6 posted on 12/09/2011 7:07:32 AM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: marktwain
"We certainly want to be fair to the Obama administration officials who were involved in Fast and Furious"

Not everyone thinks commies need to be treated fairly as seen from the commie viewpoint.

8 posted on 12/09/2011 7:09:29 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: marktwain

Pretty much...


9 posted on 12/09/2011 7:10:09 AM PST by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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The Federal Government tried to light a Reichstag fire by fueling a drug war at our Southern border.


10 posted on 12/09/2011 7:10:27 AM PST by EricT. (Is a country that would re-elect Baroke Hussein Owebama really worth saving?)
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To: marktwain

duh, it’s all about gun control, people control, power and ambition


11 posted on 12/09/2011 7:13:16 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: marktwain

Absolutely. Check out “Sarah Brady claims Obama pushing gun control under the radar”

http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-national/sarah-brady-claims-obama-pushing-under-the-radar-gun-control


12 posted on 12/09/2011 7:14:15 AM PST by arichtaxpayer
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I think one would have to go back to James Buchanan, who ordered the shipment of federal armaments to the South so that they could be commandeered by secessionists when disunion came, to find a worse scandal. And one could argue that even that act by Buchanan, generally considered the worst President in American history, was motivated by principle and not politics, and therefore was not as craven as Obama’s gun walker scandal.

I think the history is a little off here. My reading of it says that it was not Buchanan who ordered the armements shipped to the South, but his Secretary of War, a guy named John B. Floyd

13 posted on 12/09/2011 7:14:57 AM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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COMMENTS BUMP!


14 posted on 12/09/2011 7:15:56 AM PST by PGalt
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Was Fast and Furious All About Gun Control?

Yes, but don't forget the basic tenet of a would be dictator like Hussein 0bama boils down to one thing - PEOPLE CONTROL!.

FUBO GTFO! 408 Days until Noon Jan 20, 2013

15 posted on 12/09/2011 7:19:01 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Texas Eagle

The simple fact they can’t give a reason that they facilitated the illegal sale of untraceable guns to the cartel is pretty damning. I mean, they can’t even say what they hoped would happen.

The only possible thing I can think of is that they had deeply imbedded agents who were going to handle the guns as they worked their way down south. Doesn’t seem too likely, apart from the morality of letting bad guys use them, as I take it the usual procedure is to discard any weapons used so they can’t be traced any farther.

Freegards


16 posted on 12/09/2011 7:20:22 AM PST by Ransomed
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The Federal Government tried to light a Reichstag fire by fueling a drug war at our Southern border.

As accurate as that statement appears to be given the abundant evidence, the accusation is way beyond mere "treason" and is well ensconced in the realm of "Active Declaration of War Against America"

Its just not as dramatic as dropping nuclear weapons on Houston, El Paso, Phoenix and LA.

17 posted on 12/09/2011 7:21:27 AM PST by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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It's an act of terrorism, as currently defined --- since we can't come out against islamism.

Send H0lder to Gitmo.

18 posted on 12/09/2011 7:32:22 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: facedown

You bet this was the plan to take the guns away from the People. The plan back fired and—let us hope—it can take down the Obama crew and his would be Socialist/Progressive plans. Down with Holder! Down with all who tried this terrible and deadly stunt.


19 posted on 12/09/2011 7:35:39 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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Lemme see? It would be possible to understand one hundred or several hundred guns thru this one source. To more accurately make the point about arms control, if that were the true focus of the program; would it not have been better to have instances from all over the country?

I could swallow gun control as a driver for FAST & FURIOUS if that was the case. What I see in this is gun control, as an issue, being piggy-backed on an extant program. What is the program? Why nothing more than the arming of one or more cartels - plain and simple.

The complication is: why arm the cartels even more? Answer that and the truth becomes self-evident. This is what the DEA and DoJ and others are desperate to hide. I am very surprised that we have not seen more fallout from this debacle than we already have.

I would suspect the fallout to be in the form of dead bodies.

What use does Obama, or his cohorts, have in having heavily armed groups of foreign nationals, most probably obligated to him, based just across the border?


20 posted on 12/09/2011 7:43:45 AM PST by .44 Special (Taimid Buarch)
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