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To: alloysteel
There is no such thing as “peak petroleum” as it is being constantly produced, by largely abiotic means, continuously.

There are number of reasons showing this myth to be false.

Try to explain why ALL of the oil gas accumilations ONLY are found in sedimentary basis with the aboitic theory.

Why is oil and gas ONLY source to sedimentary rock and nevery found in igneous rocks?

Why does oil breakdown under heat and pressure in a refinery, but is claimed to form from basic components into complex hydrocarbon under similiar condition in aboitic theory?

Here is to more thorough and advanced methods of “reclaiming” the supposedly pumped-out and abandoned sources of the past, and revitalizing all that is truly American.

Traditional oil fields have been know for decades to only recover 20~30% of the oil in place with basic pumping. Most of the oil discovered has been left in place because up until lately, there was no way to economically recover it.

With today's technology and today's prices, we can afford enhanced oil recovery of old fields with process like CO2 flooding of the field. West Texas now has a network of CO2 pipelines to do just that.

12 posted on 12/08/2011 6:51:40 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

By “largely abiotic means”, I do not preclude the vast stores of natural gas and petroleum found in sedimentary deposits. As may or not may not be known, the floor of the ocean, in fact any body of water deeper than about 500 meters or so, the constant temperature is about 4 degrees Centigrade and at least some multiple of the atmospheric pressure at sea level. Under these conditions, any methane gas (which exists both as one of the elementary building blocks of the universe and as an end product of organic decay) combines with water to form a substance called “Methane Hydrate”, a substance that stays stable so long as the temperature remains below about 6 degrees Centigrade or so. As it is just slightly heavier than fresh or saline water, it remains on the bottom, gradually being silted in the ooze at the bottom. As this ooze solidifies into sedimentary rock, it is trapped and becomes a natural gas reservior, to be tapped millions of year later.

In the presence of certain catalysts, the methane molecule will reform into longer and longer chain hydrocarbons, thus the accumulation of petroleum in these deposits.

Oil does not “break down” during the distillation refinement process, it is separated into fractions with different volatilization and condensation points. The very long chain hydrocarbons may be successfully “cracked” by passing the substance in vapor form over a catalyst that breaks down the long carbon chain, and adds hydrogen at the point where the break in the chain occurred, creating two or more molecules of a much “lighter” petroleum fraction.

In the process used in converting organic matter into light hydrocarbons, called “thermal depolymerization”, the other vital ingredient is - water. At about 400 degrees and pressure ranging from 4 to 10 times atmospheric standard, the organic matter, be it turkey intestines, used condoms, old mattresses, lumberyard waste, or even old asphalt, is converted at a very rapid rate (less than two hours) into various kinds of light petroleum and some mineral ash, with a separate quantity of some of the water that was originally incorporated into the process.

We shall NEVER run out of petroleum.


18 posted on 12/08/2011 10:06:55 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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