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The Ron Paul Factor (Why he's surging even as others are stagnant or stumbling)
National Review ^ | 12/06/2011 | Robert Costa

Posted on 12/06/2011 7:14:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Iggles Phan

Can you please tell me how RP is strong on America’s defense, because I just do not see it.
Please enlighten us.


81 posted on 12/06/2011 9:29:32 AM PST by kaila
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To: standing man
"What is more conservative than returning to a constitutional govt."

Then why does spend pork barrel money in his district?

Do you Paul drones live in a bubble and wear mule blinds?

82 posted on 12/06/2011 9:30:15 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Gadsden1st
"Ron Paul is the only one who ...."

Fawning cult worship on display.

I wish I had a nickle for each "ron paul is the only..." spam I read.

I think it's save to say this however....

Ron Paul is the only one who blames America.

83 posted on 12/06/2011 9:35:49 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: standing man

Your statement about all ‘people’ being treated equal (as if I am against that) is pure leftist propaganda. Homosexuality is not a type of person. It is a type of behavior. It is not a Constitutional principle that all behavior should be treated equally despite the perversions that Ron Paul preaches.

In my opinion Ron Paul ecposed hinmself greatly with this vote of his. It shows that he is a leftist in regards to the military and with his willingness to continually distort the Constitution and the position of the Founders.


84 posted on 12/06/2011 9:35:49 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: Iggles Phan
strong on America’s defense

NO he is not. There has not been a terrorist he has not made excuses for, he has no understanding of defense of America.

You are correct about Romney, he could have after France volunteer.

As far as Gingrich, he had medical issues, they would not have taken him.

My husband volunteered and had medical issues. They would not take him - period.

I have zero idea about Gingrich's marriage, if it was sincere or not and neither do you.

85 posted on 12/06/2011 9:38:21 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: standing man

You also are now preaching what I consider to be typical leftist propaganda as well with your statement claiming that we cannot legislate morality. All laws (legislation) regulate morality. All laws are moral codes. Morality is the human determination of right and wrong and all laws set forth a statement of right and wrong in regards to some aspect of human life.


86 posted on 12/06/2011 9:42:23 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf

leftist propaganda. I am just a little to the right of Ghengas Khan


87 posted on 12/06/2011 9:48:20 AM PST by standing man (stand tall)
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To: Gadsden1st

thanks Gadsden. Well said.

Certainly the RinoCracy understands Flyover Country exists for them....rather than they for us...


88 posted on 12/06/2011 9:48:21 AM PST by mo
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To: standing man

Not if you believe that some laws are moral laws and others are not. (That is a leftist anti-religion viewpoint) All laws are a form of legislating morality.

You dont get to pick and choose and call some laws examples of legislating morality and claim that others are not. The leftist likes to play this game because they despise religion and like to divide laws this way the same way they divide people this way.


89 posted on 12/06/2011 9:58:26 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf
How did prohibition work out for us.
we have laws on the books that state i have to rent my house to a gay if they want it, have to give a job to one if they want it,I don't have the right to refuse service to someone whose lifestyle I find abhorrent. are these laws you support?
a constitutionally based society there would not be any special privilege no special rights and I would have the right to choose my associates.
90 posted on 12/06/2011 9:58:39 AM PST by standing man (stand tall)
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To: standing man

Whether a law worked well or not is not the issue here. And it is Ron Paul who voted to give special treatment to homosexuality and is pushing to force our troops to have to bunk and shower with people who are expressing an open perversion for the same gender by using the propaganda of claiming that we cannot legislate morality.

The leftwing and the libertarians both are pushing to force a perverted morality on people using legislation while at the same time claiming that you cannot legislate morality. They are all liars. All laws are legislating morality and we have every right in the world Constitutionally to make laws banning homosexual behavior.

How is Ron Paul supporting the right to association (which you mention) by supporting the homosexual agenda in the military as he did?


91 posted on 12/06/2011 10:03:48 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: standing man

I do not at all support the laws you mention that protect homosexuality and treat it as if it sacred or something. Homosexuality is a corruption of natural human sexuality and there should be laws being made against it.

Ron Paul though voted to protect it in the military and to force soldiers to have to associate with it claiming that it has to be treated as being equal to heterosexuality.


92 posted on 12/06/2011 10:07:01 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: svcw

“As far as Gingrich, he had medical issues, they would not have taken him.

My husband volunteered and had medical issues. They would not take him - period.”

That’s the point. Gingrich didn’t even try to volunteer. I know many people in the Army who had disabilities that they could have got out on, but they still served proudly.

“I have zero idea about Gingrich’s marriage, if it was sincere or not and neither do you.”

We do know that ultimately it was not sincere. ... Till death do us part.


93 posted on 12/06/2011 10:09:20 AM PST by Iggles Phan
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To: TheBigIf

I am not trying to be argumentative, perhaps I am not aware of some of RPs positions.
please reference where he voted, stated that he would give special rights to gays.


94 posted on 12/06/2011 10:09:20 AM PST by standing man (stand tall)
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To: GlockThe Vote

There is a vast difference between a lack of vigilence and Paul’s claims that American foreign policy caused this. That is propaganda from our enemies and he buys it. Frankly it scares me much more than the ‘supposed’ FED issues.


95 posted on 12/06/2011 10:12:23 AM PST by DrymChaser (It's amateur hour at the White House, unfortunately it means Curtains for America.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Photobucket I think that his poll numbers have went up since he has finally found a good glue to hold his eyebrows on.
96 posted on 12/06/2011 10:21:43 AM PST by RetSignman
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To: standing man

“you can not legislate morality”

We seriously need to debunk this myth. If you can’t legislate standards of conduct in a society of free people, then what can you legislate?


97 posted on 12/06/2011 10:23:55 AM PST by DrymChaser (It's amateur hour at the White House, unfortunately it means Curtains for America.)
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To: kaila

“Can you please tell me how RP is strong on America’s defense, because I just do not see it.
Please enlighten us.”

As Commander-in-Chief, Dr. Paul will lead the fight to:

* Make securing our borders the top national security priority.

* Avoid long and expensive land wars that bankrupt our country by using constitutional means to capture or kill terrorist leaders who helped attack the U.S. and continue to plot further attacks.

* Guarantee our intelligence community’s efforts are directed toward legitimate threats and not spying on innocent Americans through unconstitutional power grabs like the Patriot Act.

* End the nation-building that is draining troop morale, increasing our debt, and sacrificing lives with no end in sight.

* Follow the Constitution by asking Congress to declare war before one is waged.

* Only send our military into conflict with a clear mission and all the tools they need to complete the job – and then bring them home.

* Ensure our veterans receive the care, benefits, and honors they have earned when they return.

* Revitalize the military for the 21st century by eliminating waste in a trillion-dollar military budget.

* Prevent the TSA from forcing Americans to either be groped or ogled just to travel on an airplane and ultimately abolish the unconstitutional agency.

* Stop taking money from the middle class and the poor to give to rich dictators through foreign aid.

In short, he will follow the Constitution and respect the Sovereign Nation, States, and individual.

He will NOT be a Globalist Liberal like Gingrich who seeks to goad this country into more wars, further weakening this Nation into bankruptcy, and in the process implement the Toffler communist ‘Third Wave’ agenda.

Internationalism = Globalism = Communism

They accomplish this through endless wars and conflicts that bankrupt Nations.

That’s why they called it the ‘Communist INTERNATIONAL’.

Gingrich is a Globalist.

Ron Paul is a Sovereignist.

Ron Paul 2012 - Defending America’s Sovereignty


98 posted on 12/06/2011 10:26:38 AM PST by Iggles Phan
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To: GlockThe Vote
Not really a great idea...

Heroin clubs?

Coke stores?

LSD driving academy?

99 posted on 12/06/2011 10:26:41 AM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: lormand

Funny how you side stepped what I said.

He is unelectable and unsuitable for President.

His criticism of the Fed is correct.

We need to scale back our military entanglements oversears. Or where do you plan to find the money for this.


100 posted on 12/06/2011 10:27:06 AM PST by desertfreedom765
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