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Why You Need to Own Nickels, Right Now

In Debt Up To Our Eyeballs (Kyle Bass Has 20 Million Nickels)

1 posted on 12/04/2011 6:02:26 AM PST by blam
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Another factor in favor of collecting coins: in the event of hyperinflation and currency devaluation, it is normal for the paper money to change by a few decimal points, but the old coinage is normally retained.

That is, four of the same old quarters or a hundred pennies will still buy a “new dollar.”It's just too expensive to convert to new coins, so often the old coins are retained.

You may wake up to the news that your $50,000 in the bank is now declared to be $5,000 “new dollars.” In that case, any coins you are holding are worth 10X more than the day before. Your paper money OTOH will have to be turned in at ten to one.

2 posted on 12/04/2011 6:08:48 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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You mean ... I should keep my rolls of pennies?


4 posted on 12/04/2011 6:17:01 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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I separate nickels from my spare change, they are worth more than a nickel already, although the price has recently gone down a bit. Its the safest investment anyone can make, because the price of the metal can go down, but if that happens, it will still never go below face value.


8 posted on 12/04/2011 6:31:58 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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I had no idea this was going on...


12 posted on 12/04/2011 6:45:53 AM PST by dennisw (I heard the old man laughing What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having-Sting)
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Around here instead of hoarding pennies crooks are just stealing copper wire out of a/c units. A local church has been robbed twice of it’s copper wire.


13 posted on 12/04/2011 6:46:05 AM PST by Ditter
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If I recall at one time in the recent past a nickel contain about 7 cents worth of the metal. I joked with friends that if you wanted to become a millionaire overnight just borrow three million dollars. Buy nickels with it. Sell the metal for 4.2 million. Pay back your loan and pocket a cool million plus. This plan is scalable. Melting US coins is against the law however so you’d have to invest in a smelting furnace before you could sell your “scrap”.


17 posted on 12/04/2011 7:11:16 AM PST by 762X51
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I got a couple hundred dollars of nickels ratholed along with a couple gallons of pocket change. I know that’s nickle and dime stuff but every little bit helps. As noted, they are always worth what I paid for them.


18 posted on 12/04/2011 7:19:44 AM PST by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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It’s time once again to trot out my currency and coinage reform proposal.

Given that there has been ample inflation on the order of 10 since the last change, and we have an excessive array of confusing coins and low-value currency, it is time for a practical simplification.

First, denominations need to proceed in a proportional way without large value ratios or crowded ratios. The classic 1-5-10-50-100... progression with ratios of 2.0-5.0 is ideal as a minimum, with denominations of 2, 20, etc. being optional for important valuations.

Second, we want to avoid coins of such low value that they are more trouble than they are worth. Economic waste occurs with the extra time wasted dealing with needlessly small coins. A dime is worth less than a minute of labor at minimum wages, and no currency transaction requires anything smaller than this denomination. The penny and the half-cent served well as the smallest denominations when their values were that of today’s dime. (Note to any economic imbeciles: electronic transactions are often conducted in smaller units than our smallest coin, and that cash registers have been “rounding” - without bias up or down - to the nearest small coin for sales tax purposes for generations. Google “sales tax rounding” if you have doubts and read a few articles).

Third, we want to set the coin/currency transition at a practical level that avoids our wallets being overstuffed with small bills, or our pockets with too many coins. Coins should be suitable for purchases like a magazine, a coffee, a lunch, or a brief cab ride.

Fourth, the ratio between the largest and smallest coin should be limited to a practical factor. Consider that the economy functions effectively with coins at 0.05, 0.10, and 0.25, with pennies treated as trash, and larger coins generally not used. That is a factor of 5 between the largest and smallest coin. A factor of 10-50 may be ideal, and a factor of 100 (as in actual current coinage) is excessive.

Fifth, we need bills of adequately high value for large cash purchases (consider the largest Euro note has a value of about 6.5 times that of the largest US note.)

Sixth, coins should be sized approximately proportional to their value for ease of recognition and use.

The proposal:

Coins:
$0.10 (slightly smaller than the current dime)
$0.50 (slightly smaller than the current nickel, larger than the penny)
$1.00 (slightly smaller than the current quarter dollar, larger than the nickel)
$5.00 (slightly smaller than the current half-dollar) Or it could be set at $2 to avoid overlap with a $5 note.

Currency Notes:
$5 (optional)
$10
$20 (optional)
$50
$100
$500

Our current 6 coins are replaced with 4.
Our current 7 notes are replaced with 4-6.

If you want to talk about making coins out of silver or gold, I’m even more enthusiastic:

$1000 gold coin (1 oz)
$500 gold coin (1/2 oz)
$100 gold coin (1/10 oz)
$20 silver coin (1 oz)
$10 silver coin (1/2 oz)
$2 silver coin (1/10 oz)
$1 copper or base metal coin (1/2 oz)
$0.50 copper or base metal coin (1/4 oz)
$0.10 copper or base metal coin (1/10 oz)


19 posted on 12/04/2011 7:28:09 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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ok - so after we sort out our 1982 pennies from our stash and patiently wait for the collapse of civilization.

What exactly do we do with them?


22 posted on 12/04/2011 7:34:14 AM PST by Scotswife
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Current metal/melt value of coins.
http://www.coinflation.com/


42 posted on 12/04/2011 10:35:37 AM PST by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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Current metal/melt value of coins.
http://www.coinflation.com/


43 posted on 12/04/2011 10:36:05 AM PST by Tagurit (Are your pigs fed, watered and ready to fly?)
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