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To: Retro Llama

Government should get out of marriage, period. It’s religious institution.

However,the problem even with state’s rights on this is that one state will be forced to recognize gay marriage in another state with Full Faith and Credit provision of the constitution. DOMA is in a precarious situation both from a judicial and legislative point of view.

This will lead to government sanctioned and enforced gay marriage.


9 posted on 12/01/2011 11:58:59 AM PST by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: Darren McCarty
Government should get out of marriage, period. It’s religious institution.

No, actually marriage is a natural social institution, which exists independent of any religion. It is not, however, a state institution, simply because the various states and the Federal government have adopted laws for the registration of marriages, placing limits on the natural institution (for instance establishing minimum ages for the parties entering marriages, forbidding consanguinous marriages of various degrees and the like), supporting the institution with favorable tax treatement, and regulating the dissolution of marriages. Rather marriage, like the family, is part of the non-state civil society. Which is, of course, why the left wants to arrogate to the state the power to redefine it, thereby shrinking the non-state civil society and expanding the state.

12 posted on 12/01/2011 12:10:18 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: Darren McCarty

religion has nothing to do with the law of marriage.

you have to have legal issues dealt with particularly marriage because of inheritance, property, paternity, children, and the continuation of society.

For all intents and purposes homosexual conduct is a dead end for society. it offers and provides nothing.

even a childless normal married couple promotes society by reaffirming the norm and even by the legal creation of adoption promote society. (a child of adoption need never know the parents did not produce them, with homoseuxals it is a single parent who denies a mother or father in exchange for a recreational sex partner.)

religion is a red herring in this legal debate.


23 posted on 12/01/2011 2:32:25 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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