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When Newt Gingrich fought for the moderates
Yahoo ^ | 11/30/2011 | Chris Moody

Posted on 11/30/2011 10:59:02 PM PST by South40

With his recent rise in the polls, Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich is crisscrossing the nation with a message that he is the conservative alternative to Mitt Romney. But in another season of his life, Gingrich carried out a very different mission: promoting moderates.

At a 2004 event sponsored by the Republican Main Street Partnership, a coalition of centrist lawmakers, Gingrich touted his openness to candidates that don't toe the conservative line and condemned hardliner groups such as the influential small-government PAC Club for Growth for refusing to endorse candidates that they thought veered too far to the center.

"Everywhere I've been, I've argued in favor of electing the moderates," Gingrich said in 2004, according to a report in Bloomberg Businessweek at the time.

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To: PGalt

Avoid the phoneys. Santorum 2012!


41 posted on 12/01/2011 6:34:34 AM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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To: Doofer

Reagan campaigned for Ed Brooke in MA in 1978. Did he back Jacob Javits in 1980, I don’t recall.


42 posted on 12/01/2011 6:38:15 AM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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To: freedomfiter2

Forget the “moderates”. Santorum 2012, less baggage.


43 posted on 12/01/2011 6:43:09 AM PST by Theodore R. (Forget the others: It's Santorum's turn, articulate, passionate, less baggage.)
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To: Doofer; TitansAFC; Lady Lucky
Mrs. Sojac and I were talking about Newt's illegals policy last night.

Her money quote: "Yes, I disagree with some of what Newt is saying here. But the only person I know of who agrees with me on 100.000% of all the issues is ... me. And it's too late for me to get on the ballot."

There are a lot of Freepers who seem to think they can only vote for someone who agrees with them on 100.000% of everything.

This causes them to either (1) collapse in frustration that their clone is not on the ballot, or (2) try to rationalize or paper over the imperfections in their candidate of choice.

I don't hold myself up as smarter or more mature than the other posters here, but I've never been subject to the delusion that picking a candidate is anything other than picking the least imperfect.

44 posted on 12/01/2011 6:58:36 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Gingrich/Cain 2012)
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To: marstegreg
Newt was right! Does anybody here remember being swept our of the House, Senate and White house? I do.

So do I. Newt have much to do with that win. This guy did.

That election was a backlash to the house banking scandal (which Newt was part of) and to Hillarycare. Newt gets way too much credit for that win.

45 posted on 12/01/2011 7:26:32 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: xzins
How exactly do you think this is breaking news?

It's not, nor did I put it there. I haven't put anything in Breaking News in months.

Nice straw man argument though.

46 posted on 12/01/2011 8:57:12 AM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: TitansAFC
These guys must have really, REALLY hated Ronald Reagan.

I worked on President Reagan's 1976, 1980 and 1984 presidential campaigns. I met him when he was both my governor and my president. Not liking Newt Gingrich has noting to do with President Reagan. But I can see where you would rather throw that out than comment on the content of the article.

47 posted on 12/01/2011 9:05:45 AM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: South40

It was in breaking news. I imagine that’s verifiable with the mods in some way or other, although I don’t really care. Sounds like you don’t either.

People love to use the expression “straw man” around here.

Here’s the definition... if you’re interested:

straw man - definition and examples of straw man - informal Definition: A fallacy in which an opponent’s argument is overstated or misrepresented in order to be attacked or refuted.

Just what argument about “breaking news” were you using that I “overstated or misrepresented”?


48 posted on 12/01/2011 10:22:33 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: federal__reserve
New will act conservative...turn centrist

That's just out of touch with facts. Gingrich has a 90+% lifetime ACU rating. He's a conservative. His conservative credentials include balanced budgets, tax decreases, opposition to Soviet communism... He will govern as he always has -- as a conservative.

49 posted on 12/01/2011 10:26:11 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Theodore R.
Avoid the phoneys. Santorum 2012!

I like Rick Santorum.

50 posted on 12/01/2011 12:31:16 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Theodore R.

I have nothing against Santorum except when he said it would
be ok for illegals to pay out of state tuition just like all
the foreign students do. Hello! those foreign students are here on LEGAL student visa’s..! He must learn to distinguish
between law abiders and law breakers.

Santorum has not gained much traction...so far.
Although he may surprise in Iowa. We shall know soon.


51 posted on 12/01/2011 12:36:03 PM PST by federal__reserve (Newt has more political baggage than any others running. $1 Billion will exploit it mercilessly.)
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To: xzins
Conservatives should not ignore Newt's inconvenient Facts:

“Criticized Paul Ryan's plan saying social engineering from the right is bad”
“Era of Ronald Reagan is over!”
“We are not going to deport 11 million people”
For healthcare mandates before he is against it!
For man made global warming before he is against it!
Newt was actually FOR Cap & Trade!!
Partnering with Al Sharpton on Obama’s education reform.
Partnered with Hillary Clinton to advocate health-care IT legislation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThwVp0cwOMA individual mandates http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154 climate change

Newt Received Over $300K for Work for an Ethanol Lobbying Group
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/265555/gingrich-received-over-300k-ethanol-lobbying-work-katrina-trinko



Newt voted to create the Department of Education.
Newt voted for the Amnesty during Reagan Admin.
Newt voted to lock up 65 million acres of Alaskan wilderness.
Newt voted to give China Most favored Nation status.
Newt pushed the liberal Scozzafazza in NY23( a GOP district) when there was a perfectly good conservative running in the race.
Newt is for the Individual Mandate where Health Insurance is concerned.
Newt is NOW for a limited Amnesty based on years of illegal stay.
Depending on the day of the week, Newt believes Global Warming is real.
We need a conservative, not a moderate globalist.

52 posted on 12/01/2011 12:38:20 PM PST by federal__reserve (Newt has more political baggage than any others running. $1 Billion will exploit it mercilessly.)
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To: xzins
All that and you still have not addressed the topic of this thread.

Why do you feel it necessary to avoid the topic and post about the poster who posted it? Your responses have been about me. Why is that? Never mind; I already know.

Newt's past is indefensible, I realize that. But you make that more obvious every time you post.

53 posted on 12/01/2011 1:28:16 PM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: federal__reserve

Newt has won this nomination. It’s over. Quit belly-aching.

However, for each of your points:

social engineering from the right is bad
the era of reagan is over...it’s 2011
we’re not going to deport 11 million people
he believed those who ran up a hospital bill should pay their own bill
the “best” scientific evidence was proven wrong after he made faulty assumptions based on faulty research. He changed when the east anglia research was proven fraudulent
See above and he was for market based voluntary reductions in emissions
he was for market based approaches to education
he was for market based approach to health care AND for patients to pay their own bills
he supported Reagan
he voted for a number of items to have a united party
Again, Newt is for patients being required to pay their own bills
Newt is not for amnesty; he said so. He’s for long-term established families not being broken up.
Newt does not believe in Global warming.


54 posted on 12/01/2011 1:34:06 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: South40

I have no idea what you’re talking about. This article was posted in breaking news at the exact time that I posted to you this morning. Check it out.

And, you haven’t told me what the straw man is.


55 posted on 12/01/2011 1:41:00 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

You are by all means entitled to your Newtonian opinions.
Newt can flip flop all he wants on all the positions listed by me. Which still makes him flip flopper, unstable, undependable and bi-polar personality. He is no better than Romney on flip flops. Either one of them are not our best choices for president.


56 posted on 12/01/2011 2:43:19 PM PST by federal__reserve (Newt has more political baggage than any others running. $1 Billion will exploit it mercilessly.)
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To: xzins

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/11/30/brutal-new-ron-paul-ad-you-people-cant-seriously-be-thinking-of-nominating-gingrich/


57 posted on 12/01/2011 2:50:02 PM PST by federal__reserve (Newt has more political baggage than any others running. $1 Billion will exploit it mercilessly.)
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To: federal__reserve; TitansAFC; P-Marlowe

The only one he has changed a position on is the climate change one, and that is because the East Anglia research was revealed to be fraudulent.

He was going by the majority science prior to East Anglia, and he rejected those conclusions when fraud was exposed.

What’s wrong with that?

If you recommended your banker before fraud was exposed, and after fraud came to light you stopped recommending people put their money there, would that make you a flip-flopper?


58 posted on 12/01/2011 5:18:33 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: xzins

“Newt has won this nomination.”

Not a single ballot has been cast in the GOP primary yet. All that’s come out have been polls.


59 posted on 12/01/2011 6:34:36 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: KantianBurke

mene, mene, tekel, parsin


60 posted on 12/01/2011 6:39:19 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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