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So basically he’s trying to take Cain’s position and deny his own. His dishonesty is profound.


5 posted on 11/29/2011 2:09:02 PM PST by Apollo5600 (Cain 2012)
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To: Apollo5600

>> “ His dishonesty is profound” <<

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No Shiite!


15 posted on 11/29/2011 2:31:15 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Apollo5600
So basically he’s trying to take Cain’s position and deny his own. His dishonesty is profound.

No, your blind is ignorance is what is profound. As you have been told before, this IS his plan. No, it doesn't match up with the "straw-Newt" you created, but too bad. Now, you aren't grown up enough to admit you were wrong. When Newt says something you don't like you attack him, and when he says something that is 100% conservative you come up with some idiotic reason to find fault with it, such as saying it's Cain's position. Let's get this straight once and for all. Cain can't hold a candle to Newt. The idea that Newt would need to steal an idea from Cain is laughable. Cain is the guy who always deferred to Newt in that debate when poor Herman got a toughie. Cain's a fine conservative, and I hope he's innocent of the latest claims against him, but he's about as ready to be President as any conservative you can randomly pick off the street. We can do better than that, and we will.
27 posted on 11/29/2011 3:08:37 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: Apollo5600
So basically he’s trying to take Cain’s position and deny his own. His dishonesty is profound.

Actually it is virtually the same as . . . Gov. Palin.

As for his motivation?

Don't know.

Would he actually do it?

Don't know.



Would Gov. Palin have done it?

:-)




Jul 11, 2010

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
The top story tonight. If Sarah Palin were President, could she solve the illegal immigration problem? When I spoke to the governor last night, that was the big question.

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
So you're President Of The United States, Sarah Palin, you send how many National Guard to the border, right away, to secure it?

[Sarah Louise Palin]
How ever you may need! This is the top priority, this is a National Security issue.

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
Alright, I’m talking Texas, California, New Mexico, all of them. So you'd send 10, fifteen thousand National Gard down there, right away to assist in border patrol. Yes?

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Whatever it takes. Whatever it takes.

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
Alright, so you'd militarize the border,

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Yup

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
You’d finish the fence, finish building the fence to Brownsville, San Diego, Yes?

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Yup

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
Now we have 12 million people staring at you. And you say to those people, you ar in her illegally, you broke civil law by coming in here, ummm, now, are you gonna deport them? What are you gonna do?

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Well, again. First let me go back to the importance of Securing the Border.

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
We got that! We got that, Governor!

[Sarah Louise Palin]
If you start talking about Amnesty the border

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
Everybody,

[Sarah Louise Palin]
No. We don't!

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
All factors people, people watching this program have it. We have it. We assume, you as President would secure the border. Of confidence that you would do that. Now you have to look inward, alright, and you got 12 million people staring at you, what are you going to have them do?

[Sarah Louise Palin]
You're not going to give them a free pass. You’re not gonna say, okay, you and anybody else who wants to scurry across this poorest border between now and when we do finally get it fenced in and physically secure. We’ll give you a free pass and just because you’ve broken the laws in the past we can trust you. NO!

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
No amnesty.


[Sarah Louise Palin]
No amnesty. Which means…

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
So what do you do with these folks? Do you make them register with the Federal Government? Do you tell them, they have 60 days to get out of here before we put you in jail? What do we do with them?

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Do, do we make them register with the Federal Government?

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
Yes, so we know who they are. So we know where they are.

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Yes, we do. We have to. Exactly, want an answer to that question? Absolutely! We are not going to give them a free pass!

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
So we make the register with the Federal Government

[Sarah Louise Palin]
We are not going to reward the bad behavior. Yes.

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
And if you don’t register with the Federal, say you give them 60 days to register with the Federal Government..

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Hmm hmm

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
There’s a form at the post office, they have to send in, like a census form. Alright, say they didn’t do it?

[Sarah Louise Palin]
You deport them, you have to get them out!

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
The ones that don’t for a period of time. Okay.

[Sarah Louise Palin]
We we don’t reward their continued bad behavior.

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
So after a period of time, the ones that don’t co-operate

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Yes.

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
You catch them, they’re gone. Now,

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Right.

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
You have these people, that register, you gonna have millions of them, then they register and we’ll, bade what President Palin told us to do. Then what? Do you give them green-cards to work, right away? What do you with them?

[Sarah Louise Palin]
You know, there has to be that expectation that they will work and that the will contribute, it makes me uncomfortable that we are even going down that path so far,

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
You have to though!

[Sarah Louise Palin]
No, no no

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
You have to go down that path cause its gonna come up!

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Americans Citizens who are here lawfully, they need to be the ones with the first shot at getting these jobs. Why, we cannot make it easy on those who have chosen to be illegal, illegally here to disobey our laws. No

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
No, we can’t make it easy, but they are here and we can’t starve them to death and they can’t work and they don’t have a green-card to work, um, they are gonna be housed, they gotta pay rent they gotta by groceries and other thing. This is where it gets complicated Governor. You know, it get very very complicated because you are rewarding bad behavior. You let them stay in the United States. And they came in illegally.

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Then lets keep it, then we won’t complicated it anymore, lets keep it simple and lets say: “No”. If you were here, illegally, and um, if you don’t follow the steps at some point through immigration reform, we are going to be able to somehow to provide to allow you to work, if you are not gonna do that, than you will be deported. You will be gone.

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
Okay, we’ve established that. Okay, we’ve established that.

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Lets look at case history, lets, lets look at what – political hero Ronald Regan tried to do, 3 million illegal

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
He botched it

[Sarah Louise Palin]
All those years ago

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
Regan botched it

[Sarah Louise Palin]
Exactly

[William James Bill O'Reilly Jr]
He botched it

[Sarah Louise Palin]
That's what I’m saying, we learn from history. We won’t do what what he did!

32 posted on 11/29/2011 4:34:59 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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