Posted on 11/28/2011 4:36:27 PM PST by smokingfrog
A 30-year-old Bethlehem man was arraigned today for possessing 10 .40-caliber hollow point rounds in Phillipsburg, court records show.
According to Phillipsburg police:
Roddley W. Watson Jr., of the 1000 block of East Fourth Street, was stopped about 1 a.m. Nov. 23 after police responded to Morris and Raymond streets for a report of a hit and run.
When police spoke with Watson, they saw in plain view a "Glock pistol magazine loaded with hollow point ammunition in the driver's side-door compartment."
Watson was not in possession of a weapon.
Watson told police he owned the magazine but forgot to remove it from his vehicle.
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That sounds like a very good recommendation to me. (In a SHTF situation, I wouldn't think that you would be entirely certain of what might be behind your target. I'd worry that taking the time to do so could end up causing a fatal delay.)
I have many of those evil bullets, but I only transport them to the range with my evil gun in my car both locked in a container with the bullets not in the gun or magazine if I bring the semi-auto.
I think I am not in violation of the law but since NJ gun laws are so confusing, I don’t know.
The only thing I am sure of is that no gang member in Newark, Camden or any other part of NJ gives a F—k about this law.
That sounds like a ‘cop killer’ bullet to me.
/s
The local constabulary probably expends that many rounds before their firearm clears their holster.
I was shocked when I first found out I could buy hollow point bullets in Washington State.
Left Jersey for Virginia in about 1992. Hello, hollow points. Or anything interesting, for that matter. Still like my Browning Hi-Power, which is the first 9 mm I got after leaving Jersey.
AFAIK there’s no hunting with rifles in NJ - only shotguns, or, during primitive weapons season, muzzle-loaders. Bow hunting is very, very big, too.
Why would you waste hollow point rounds at a gun range? They are way more expensive than non-hollow point.
Soft points don't have "hollow points" (the hole in the end) so even though you think they are the same, they are not.
It’s clear that the people that wrote this law didn’t know very much about ammunition or ballistics.
Lot of that going around...
You should always periodically check the operation of your piece with the ammunition you’re going to use to fight with. There are possible differences between it and ball ammunition including failures to feed, eject, and changes in point of impact between the two types (admittedly this last tends to be negligible at most self-defense ranges but it’s still good do know). And you’re right, it ain’t cheap.
FYI
The police are the only ones professional enough to use hollow point ammo in a real life-or-death situation. /s
In effect you can have/use HPs anyplace that it's legal to have/use a firearm in New Jersey which is not very many. In addition to your list, I believe you can also have HPs at your place of business. You could use HPs to hunt if if were legal to hunt with a non-black-powder rifle in New Jersey which it is not, so that's a moot point.
And not ALL police can carry HPs. Retired LEOs can carry firearms in the People's Republic, but they can't carry HPs. Like most of the firearms laws here, it's idiotic. But anyone living in a border area of Pennsylvania should know about that.
“the people that wrote this law didn’t know very much”
That in itself... pretty much covers it.
LLS
I use .40 S&W EFMJ in New Jersey to “skirt” the hollow point issue.
I couldn’t agree more.
LOL! It would seem that way to police state proponents (not you, of course) around large cities of the east. In the middle of nowhere in the West (here), they’re for the rare occasion of defending people or property (e.g., livestock) against large, dangerous predators. They’ll blow right through a large bear. WFN (wide, flat-nosed) are actually better for that, BTW. Good for any kind of defense, where there are no neighbors or other innocents within possible range (like here). The commonly high winds are also a consideration for preferring heavy, larger-bore ammo.
Haven’t needed them around here. The bear keep to themselves and haven’t passed closer than about a quarter mile from here (dung and tracks on their way to water and back).
What about varmint hunting?
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