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When good paying jobs go unfilled (Employers looking to fill these jobs are having little success)
Hotair ^ | 11/28/2011 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 11/28/2011 9:40:09 AM PST by SeekAndFind

We hear so much these days about the unemployment figures and the lack of good paying jobs for the disappearing middle class that it’s almost become the new normal. Combined with that, the plaintive cries from the OWS occupiers about the heavy burdens of oppressive college loans for graduates unable to find work have become a regular fixture in political discussions. Which is why it’s odd when we see the Wall Street Journal reporting on employers looking to fill relatively high wage jobs and having little to no success in finding takers.

Ferrie Bailey’s job should be easy: hiring workers amid the worst stretch of unemployment since the Depression.

A recruiter for Union Pacific Corp., she has openings to fill, the kind that sometimes seem to have all but vanished: secure, well-paying jobs with good benefits that don’t require a college degree.

But they require specialized skills—expertise in short supply even with the unemployment rate at 9%. Which is why on a recent morning the recruiter found herself in a hiring hall here anxiously awaiting the arrival of just two people she had invited to interviews, winnowed from an initial group of nearly five dozen applicants. With minutes to go, the folding chairs sat empty. “I don’t think they’re going to show,” Ms. Bailey said, pacing in the basement room.

Moe Lane jumps on this opportunity with a decision to send the kids to electrician’s school.

Or maybe it’ll be plumber’s school. Or welding. Doesn’t really matter: until people don’t have to spend tens of thousands of dollars a year to get poorly educated for white-collar jobs that don’t actually exist, some sort of technical training is looking more and more attractive. We’re always going to need electricians and plumbers, and they can improve their minds on their lunch breaks. Which they’ll get, because we’re always going to need electricians and plumbers.

It’s a valid point which we’ve made here before and always draw criticism for it. I’m not saying there’s no value to a college education. Having the right sheepskin and a willingness to work hard is absolutely a solid course for those with the ability to pursue it. But not everyone can and – increasingly – fewer and fewer are willing to look at lower cost but potentially productive alternate paths.

I’ve told this story before, but it bears repeating. Right in my neighborhood there is the son of one of my neighbors who finished high school several years back and went into an apprenticeship and technical school training program for heating and air conditioning. Within six months of graduating high school he had a secure, full time job which is bringing in some seriously good pay and benefits. Yes, the job involves hard work, finds him coming home covered in dirt and dust, and he frequently has to deal with irate, if not panicking homeowners. But he had no outstanding debt and at the age of 25 was already purchasing his first home. As his father tells it, he got a terrific rate on it, putting down a very substantial down payment.

The point is, there is still blue collar work out there to be done. And unlike many white collar jobs, a lot of it will never be able to be outsourced to other countries, as so often happens to computer programming jobs and others in related fields. Nobody is going to be able to log in to “the cloud” from Brazil and dig a new foundation for your home, wire it up, install the plumbing or put on a new roof. Those jobs will remain here at home.

I would once again suggest taking a look at Matthew B. Crawford’s wonderful book, Shop Class as Soulcraft. In it, he examines what he describes as “the value of work.” He also notes with dismay the decades long trend of high schools abandoning shop class and any other training for skills requiring the use of your hands. When schools began to push everyone to go to a university, they also seemed to scorn and delegitimize the trades, much to our detriment. And now we see jobs which could help rebuild the middle class going empty because we’ve forgotten the value of good old fashioned work.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: jobs; skills; unemployment
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1 posted on 11/28/2011 9:40:19 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
He also notes with dismay the decades long trend of high schools abandoning shop class and any other training for skills requiring the use of your hands.

But does he understand how this came about? I believe it is because our public schools are very down on subjects where males do better than females.

2 posted on 11/28/2011 9:44:37 AM PST by freespirited (Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business & degenerates into a racket. -- Hoffer)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting article. I think “skilled blue collar” is still alive and well for those who wish to go that route.

I just wish they weren’t so union-dominated.


3 posted on 11/28/2011 9:45:50 AM PST by RockinRight (If you're waiting to drink until you find pure water, you're going to die of dehydration.)
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To: neverdem; narses; xsmommy; MHGinTN; SunkenCiv; SmithL; CholeraJoe; EODGUY; CPOSharky; Doohickey

Good article.


4 posted on 11/28/2011 9:47:15 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: SeekAndFind

They still have many trade classes at my small town High School. There is a waiting list to get in. Also night classes for adults.

If you want to learn a trade, you still can. You just have to want it.


5 posted on 11/28/2011 9:47:44 AM PST by poobear (Facts, the TURD in the punchbowl of Liberal thought!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is due to HS guidance counselors is pushing more people into these worthless degrees and attempting to dissuade students from attending the “Evil” “For-Profit” schools that actually have a higher graduation and hiring rate.


6 posted on 11/28/2011 9:49:28 AM PST by indianaconservative
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To: SeekAndFind

A recruiter for Union Pacific Corp, Ferrie Bailey’s comments are blocked by the paywall for the WSJ. Can someone tell me what skills she is looking for? Welding? Machining? If so I have a suggestion, pay more for those skills and more qualified applicants will show up.

I find a lot of these employer complaints are from companies wanting something for nothing above their idea of market value.


7 posted on 11/28/2011 9:51:09 AM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: SeekAndFind

A lot of those cannot be shipped overseas to India as a bonus !


8 posted on 11/28/2011 9:53:58 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: SeekAndFind

bfl


9 posted on 11/28/2011 9:58:37 AM PST by spankalib (The Marx-in-the-Parks crowd is a basement skunkworks operation of the AFL-CIO)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
"I find a lot of these employer complaints are from companies wanting something for nothing above their idea of market value."

True, in an economic downturn employers are all too willing to lower the payscales in hopes that desperate folks will accept anything even remotely close to their needs.

My current employer uses this "rationale" to explain why we aren't getting raises or higher raises. Granted, it's their prerogative whether I get one or not, but don't attempt to insult my intelligence by lying to me about it.

In my experience, I've seen that when there's a surplus of labor, the rates go down. When there's a shortage, the rates go up.

I do recall my shop classes quite fondly. About the only classes I took where I felt that I actually learned something of value.

10 posted on 11/28/2011 10:00:58 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

RE: I find a lot of these employer complaints are from companies wanting something for nothing above their idea of market value.

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Are you saying that the article is giving us BS when it calls these unfilled jobs -— “secure, well-paying jobs with good benefits that don’t require a college degree” ?


11 posted on 11/28/2011 10:01:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Nobody is going to be able to log in to “the cloud” from Brazil and dig a new foundation for your home, wire it up, install the plumbing or put on a new roof. Those jobs will remain here at home.”

Someone still needs to have the money to pay them to do the job.


12 posted on 11/28/2011 10:03:51 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A big problem, is that employers want someone that knows exactly what to do, so they will just blend in and be productive. Unfortunately, a lot of times, they are the only ones that have experienced people with those specific requirements. Employers want some that can work on rev x, while there may be a number of people that know rev y or rev w, the employers don’t want to spend any overhead on training or OJT.


13 posted on 11/28/2011 10:04:35 AM PST by stuartcr ("Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.")
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To: SeekAndFind

13-20 million unemployed and nobody is trainable ?

you’ll have a hell of an employee if you do train ‘em and pay ‘em half way decent.


14 posted on 11/28/2011 10:10:17 AM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: SeekAndFind

Skilled blue collar with about a year of business school is a good way to go.


15 posted on 11/28/2011 10:19:35 AM PST by fso301
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi

Can someone tell me what skills she is looking for? Welding? Machining? If so I have a suggestion, pay more for those skills and more qualified applicants will show up.


A+ for you.


16 posted on 11/28/2011 10:19:50 AM PST by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: MontaniSemperLiberi
If so I have a suggestion, pay more for those skills and more qualified applicants will show up.

Do you honestly believe that unemployed electricians with experience working on diesel engines (according to the WSJ column) are sitting around on their asses waiting for Union Pacific to raise its payscale? ROTFLMAO

17 posted on 11/28/2011 10:20:53 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: freespirited

Shop classes were done away with for one main reason:

LIABILITY

It is really hard to cut your finger off in language arts class. I saw a stoner cut through their finger with the 20” bandsaw back in 1980. If that happened today, the school would probably be in for a major lawsuit. This is why SAWSTOP tablesaws are selling for more than a Powermatic.
They pay themselves off in just the reduced insurance premium.

The other reason is the cost of shop space in machinery and materials. It is a lot cheaper to offer advanced math than basic woodshop or automotive.


18 posted on 11/28/2011 10:21:51 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: freespirited
But does he understand how this came about?

Those who can do. Those who cannot, teach. Those who cannot teach, teach gym. Or shop.

My biggest regret about HS was the absolute incompetence of my teachers. I probably had only two competent HS teachers in my four years.

19 posted on 11/28/2011 10:23:50 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Ceterum autem censeo, Obama delenda est.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I agree. It is a good article. I don’t know if I’d chalk this situation up to some nefarious plot, though.

However, I think a J-school graduate that refers to “good paying jobs” should go back to school and brush up a bit on the grammar.


20 posted on 11/28/2011 10:23:51 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Cain = National Sales Tax; Perry = Amnesty for Illegals; Romney = Obamacare forever. Who's left?)
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