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To: Timber Rattler

This STILL doesn’t answer my questions about how to accomplish this today.

MY question still remains about HOW to deal with those families who have been here for 25 years or more with children and grandchildren who are all Americans....and no longer speak the language of the parents’ country of origin. AND, what if the country of origin is extremely dangerous for the elderly original parents? In this case, I like what Speaker Gingrich has proposed for that group only....and yes, it should be done on a case by case basis. The way he has described this, it is NOT amnesty. They do not receive citizenship and cannot vote. I DO think they should pay a fine for breaking the law.

And regarding the breaking of the law....(I’m trying to be honest here)...many Americans have encouraged Hispanics in particular to come here and to stay here. They liked their willingness to do hard work, often types of work that others did not want to do. Businesses encouraged it....and often government officials did not enforce the laws. It is understandable that, over the years, many of these people were indirectly encouraged to come here. Many people, legal and illegal were ignoring the law.


18 posted on 11/28/2011 6:13:24 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: SumProVita

“MY question still remains about HOW to deal with those families who have been here for 25 years or more with children and grandchildren who are all Americans”

So your solution is to give mass-amnesty every 20 or 10 years?
Besides, what about those millions of people who still have family members out of country because they are (stupidly) waiting for legal opportunity to immigrate?

The only honest (and also, winning) approach for GOP nominee is this:
- absolutely no amnesty, legalization or whatever is the latest name for it
- build a fence (”shovel-ready jobs”). This protects us against illegals, drug-dealers, terrorists, and human trafficking. Let’s start with 200 miles/year.
- enforce current laws
- mandate e-verify
- support states in their enforcement laws
- get tough on foreign countries who support illegal entries: If Mexico enables and supports illegal entries, then no visas or trucks allowed anymore for Mexico.

Perry and Newt are the two totally unacceptable nominees. They should run for President of Mexico instead.


29 posted on 11/28/2011 6:26:12 AM PST by heiss (heartless)
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To: SumProVita

“MY question still remains about HOW to deal with those families who have been here for 25 years or more with children and grandchildren who are all Americans”

So your solution is to give mass-amnesty every 20 or 10 years?
Besides, what about those millions of people who still have family members out of country because they are (stupidly) waiting for legal opportunity to immigrate?

The only honest (and also, winning) approach for GOP nominee is this:
- absolutely no amnesty, legalization or whatever is the latest name for it
- build a fence (”shovel-ready jobs”). This protects us against illegals, drug-dealers, terrorists, and human trafficking. Let’s start with 200 miles/year.
- enforce current laws
- mandate e-verify
- support states in their enforcement laws
- get tough on foreign countries who support illegal entries: If Mexico enables and supports illegal entries, then no visas or trucks allowed anymore for Mexico.

Perry and Newt are the two totally unacceptable nominees. They should run for President of Mexico instead.


30 posted on 11/28/2011 6:26:20 AM PST by heiss (heartless)
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To: SumProVita
It's actually, pretty simple. Enforce the existing laws, crack down hard nationally in all 50 states, and then deport as many illegals as the Border Patrol/ICE can catch. If the illegals have dependents who are American citizens, then they can go back with their parents and return when they are 18. I don't care if they are children or not. They are still illegal.

As Eisenhower's men found in 1954, once the crack down starts, the illegals will mostly deport themselves. Just look at what happened in Arizona and Alabama when they toughened their laws---entire illegal alien communities simply packed up and left after dark.

This is not rocket science.

35 posted on 11/28/2011 6:32:44 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: SumProVita
Trying to be honest here, but I think you may have signed on to the wrong location, jim does not support this amnesty BS you are pushing.
49 posted on 11/28/2011 7:23:19 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters.)
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