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This 28-Year-Old Is Making Sure Credit Cards Won't Exist In The Next Few Years
SFGate ^ | November 10, 2011 | Alyson Shontell

Posted on 11/27/2011 5:15:18 PM PST by decimon

There's a tiny 12-person startup churning out of Des Moines, Iowa that most people have never heard of.

Dwolla was founded by 28-year-old Ben Milne, and it's an innovative new way of thinking about online payments that sidesteps credit cards completely.

Milne has no finance background, yet his little operation is moving between $30 and $50 million per month, or about $350 million per year.

We interviewed Milne about how he is building a credit card killer and Square rival from the middle of the nation where VCs and press are scarce.

I'm told you're pissing off credit card companies. How are you doing that?

Ultimately we're trying to build the next Visa, not the next PayPal. We're building a human network based on how we think the future of payments will work. The current model needs to be blown up.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: creditcards; nocreditcards
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1 posted on 11/27/2011 5:15:21 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Mark of the beast?


2 posted on 11/27/2011 5:18:14 PM PST by bjorn14 (Woe to those who call good evil and evil good. Isaiah 5:20)
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To: bjorn14

Could be


3 posted on 11/27/2011 5:20:54 PM PST by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: bjorn14
Mark of the beast?

Why would this be more beastly than anything else done with money?

4 posted on 11/27/2011 5:21:16 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Interesting to be sure...25 cent transaction fees...hmmm


5 posted on 11/27/2011 5:23:19 PM PST by An American! (Proud To Be An American!)
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To: An American!

I like the cost, but I don’t like anybody having direct access to my account.

I barely trust the banks to have access to my accounts.


6 posted on 11/27/2011 5:25:48 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: decimon

Bump for later replies. I am interested in this.


7 posted on 11/27/2011 5:26:13 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: bjorn14

More like mark of the entrepreneur.


8 posted on 11/27/2011 5:28:18 PM PST by frankenMonkey (10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash. Now it's no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash.)
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To: decimon

When’s a good time to short eBay if Paypal is going to get creamed?


9 posted on 11/27/2011 5:30:33 PM PST by meatloaf (I've had it with recycling politicians in any way shape or form. Toss 'em out!)
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To: decimon
Why would this be more beastly than anything else done with money?

Because it links money to people directly, rather than allowing it to remain separate.

It's an infrastructure refinement that takes a big step towards pure electronic money with innate human audit coding.

In other words, kiss anonymous spending goodbye in even the smallest or most informal transactions.

10 posted on 11/27/2011 5:30:36 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: An American!; Jonty30

I can’t tell just how this works, but...

It doesn’t look like anyone has direct access to your bank account. Unless, I guess, you set up automatic payments.

One thing you might do is set up two checking accounts, one for regular payments and the other for the one-off payments you less trust. Keep a minimal balance in the second account.


11 posted on 11/27/2011 5:32:46 PM PST by decimon
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To: Talisker

More and more, I’m trending towards using cold, hard cash for purchases.


12 posted on 11/27/2011 5:33:07 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: bjorn14
Mark of the beast?

You already have that, FRiend. It's that nine digit number you use to get a job, open any financial account and obtain other documents to drive and travel.

13 posted on 11/27/2011 5:34:26 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: decimon

It sounds similar to the debit system in Canada.

Basically, the merchant contacts the bank electronically, who checks my account and approves the purchase or declines it.

It doesn’t sound revolutionary to me from the description of the article.


14 posted on 11/27/2011 5:36:29 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: SatinDoll
More and more, I’m trending towards using cold, hard cash for purchases.

I can't remember the last time I had more than $200 in cash on me. And that's only when I travel on business. 95% of my transactions are credit card and online payments.

15 posted on 11/27/2011 5:37:10 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Talisker
Why would this be more beastly than anything else done with money?

Because it links money to people directly, rather than allowing it to remain separate. It's an infrastructure refinement that takes a big step towards pure electronic money with innate human audit coding.

In other words, kiss anonymous spending goodbye in even the smallest or most informal transactions.

I don't think this is being more linked to money than what we have now. And I'm not going to pay 25 cents to make a 5 dollar purchase when I can just hand someone a fiver.

16 posted on 11/27/2011 5:40:31 PM PST by decimon
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To: bjorn14

Mark of the beast?


Geeze! Unless you think paying 3% credit card fees of making a wire transfer will make you intimate with Beelzebub, I think you can relax a tad.

Anyone who reads the article (especially if you do much Paypal, or are a merchant, or want to receive payments, or make wire transfers will realize that this should succeed, and may be a godsend.)

When credit card fees double the markup on a gold coin purchase, something else is needed (especially when banks want $20 for a wire transfer).

And if you think $0.25 is too much to move your money (or receive it), then you must hate Paypal, which gets 2.9% PLUS $0.30.


17 posted on 11/27/2011 5:41:15 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Jonty30

If its like paypal then they can freeze your account with that access. Freeze the account and the funds in it.


18 posted on 11/27/2011 5:44:25 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: decimon

Personally, I like my credit cards. Of course I pay them off every month...


19 posted on 11/27/2011 5:45:35 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: Talisker

“In other words, kiss anonymous spending goodbye in even the smallest or most informal transactions. “

Unless you use cash you’ve already lost any anonymity you ever had. The federal govt has real time access to your checking accounts or credit card accounts.


20 posted on 11/27/2011 5:46:40 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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