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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The anarchist sees no distinction between free enterprise and state socialism. He cannot be happy as long as anyone has more property or power than someone else. “Any consistent anarchist must oppose private ownership of the means of production and the wage-slavery which is a component of this system,” Chomsky writes, “as incompatible with the principle that labor must be freely undertaken and under the control of the producer.” What Chomsky is saying is that you can justly grow your own tomato, but you can never hire anyone else to pick it.

Everyone needs to understand that like so many other groups, modern day Anarchists are simply an arm of the Communists movement. The end goal of Communism is a stateless society where everything and everyone is equal in all things and social justice has been achieved for all. It starts out with a centralization of authority where once the state has leveled the playing field, is supposed to then step aside and that's why Anarchists find Communism so appealing, not realizing that the state will NEVER willingly give up its power. Human nature in itself makes Communism unattainable, but the state keeps trying and it usually involves the mass slaughter of those whom they deem as not seeing eye to eye with their goals. If they feel you can't be reeducated, then you will be exterminated. Imagine these folks in charge on a world wide scale. Communism is estimated to have resulted in the deaths of 150 million in the 20th century alone in just a handful of communists countries. The greatest slaughter is yet to come.

No Communist government has every achieved the perfect and final communist society. At first we heard repeatedly that is was because "the right people haven't been in charge", and now its because Communist nations have had to compete with Capitalist nations. As a result they are attempting to bring about a world wide economic collapse to remold the entire world in one communist super society where Communists no longer have anyone to compete with and they don't care who has to die or how nations have to be wiped out to achieve their grand experiment.

12 posted on 11/27/2011 5:47:21 PM PST by Carbonsteel
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To: Carbonsteel
Somehow, no communist government has ever gotten past "the dictatorship of the proletariat" and progressed to "the withering away of the state".

Thus, nobody has ever gotten closer to utopia than two steps...

14 posted on 11/27/2011 6:04:16 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Carbonsteel

I agree. OWS is the latest rebirth of Marxism. The goal of OWS is destruction of private property and private property rights so that a new group can control society. The new group would have privileges not shared with the rest of society. The lack of private property rights would allow the new group to retain control.

The rats have become afraid of OWS because the chaos might lead to loss of power. Otherwise, the OWS and Democrats have similar views and goals. Existing Democrats do not want to share power with OWS.


18 posted on 11/27/2011 10:15:03 PM PST by businessprofessor
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To: Carbonsteel
The end goal of Communism is a stateless society where everything and everyone is equal in all things and social justice has been achieved for all. It starts out with a centralization of authority where once the state has leveled the playing field, is supposed to then step aside...

When I first found this out I was dumbfounded. I couldn't understand how people could be so damned stupid to believe a group of other people who, in the name of freedom, wanted ALL power so that they could then promise to give it up.

I mean, WTF?

Then, when you add to this astoundingly insulting proposition the historical record of 200 million that have been slaughtered precisely by these same communist groups in the last hundred years... the fact that communism is somehow still going strong is beyond comprehension.

That's when I decided that "criminal ignorance" was not an oxymoron, but that it actually exists.

And then, when I realized what kind of creature it would take to BE criminally ignorant... I realized that indeed, "we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." - Ephesians 6:12

20 posted on 11/27/2011 10:23:18 PM PST by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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