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To: BobL
If we want to become Hispanic-majority, then the BEST THING we can do is keep the Illegals that are here, and watch them have kids and more kids, and grand kids and more grand kids. If not, then they need to GO HOME, and be prevented from coming back here.

Do you see a political will emerging to secure the border without some plan for those that are already here? I don't see it happening and the longer we wait for the perfect plan the less likely we are to get anything done.

I think the visa idea is probably the best we can do with those that are anchored here by their American born children. The economy has already caused a lot that don't have families with them to leave.

152 posted on 11/26/2011 10:46:19 AM PST by wmfights (PERRY 2012)
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To: wmfights

“Do you see a political will emerging to secure the border without some plan for those that are already here?”

Sure - there is A LOT MORE political will to secure the border than there is to figure out what to do with the Illegals, as people are somewhat split on the Illegals.

“I don’t see it happening and the longer we wait for the perfect plan the less likely we are to get anything done.”

The ONLY thing that is holding up securing the border is that we ALWAYS seem to elect open-borders types for President. This reminds me of New York City - when they said for decades that crime could NEVER be solved. Well, what was their problem - they kept electing mayors that DIDN’T WANT to solve crime. Finally it got to be too much, Rudy was elected, and the rest was history (and without ANY new laws or other help).

As Reagan also showed, people tend to underestimate what having a leader at the top can do, with or without ‘legislation’. In Reagan’s case he said that he would “deal with” the Iranians holding American hostages. Those hostages were released 1 minute after Reagan was inaugurated.

“I think the visa idea is probably the best we can do with those that are anchored here by their American born children.”

I don’t think we have ANYTHING to gain by even discussing this, at this point. We secure the border, then we can start talking about them. They won’t go anywhere, there simply is NO REASON to be discussing them now.


166 posted on 11/26/2011 10:55:58 AM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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