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Newt Gingrich Stands by 'Soft' Immigration Stance, Despite Party Backlash
Daily News ^ | November 25 2011 | staff

Posted on 11/26/2011 8:38:29 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion

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To: Windflier

It is not one of the great issues of our day. It pales in comparison to the murder of 60 million babies and spending that has a 15 trillion dollar debt and obligations of 90 trillion. Its most important aspect is security of the border, which is really a security issue and not the issue of the immigrants themselves.


201 posted on 11/26/2011 11:25:33 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Gator113
Does Newt Gingrich’s 10-point ‘humane’ immigration policy make you more likely to vote for him?

Yes, finally a Republican candidate who is fair to immigrants 58%

If you believe the results of that poll are honest, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Americans have been polled over and over again, about illegal immigration over the last decade. The results consistently bear out that something like 80% want our laws enforced, and for the illegals to return to their countries of origin.

A bum rushed internet poll isn't going to change that.

202 posted on 11/26/2011 11:25:33 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Lady Lucky
On his website, Gingrich affirms the primary objective is to secure the border. I don’t know why you can’t see it.

The primary objective should be the complete enforcement of existing laws, from securing the borders to employer enforcement.

It's a long border. Simply saying that our primary concern should be the border will not get the job done.

203 posted on 11/26/2011 11:26:25 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Jim Robinson

I said “other than Romney in my original post”. Yes, we are eating our own. This election will come down to who can take out Obama. I will not vote for Mitt and will sit out. Other than him, I will be behind anyone. I gave and supported Thompson last run and voted for Sarah as well. We have got to get thsi man out of our house. Anyone is better than we have now.

Newt is a lot of things but this world has become very complex. I believe he is the only candidate that can comprehend these very difficult times. Put Cain on the ticket to concentrate on the economy and we have a winner.

It is the primary’s and tensions are high. :)


204 posted on 11/26/2011 11:27:20 AM PST by mmanager ( Quit eating our own! Everyone is better than what we have.)
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To: Lady Lucky
I use the number the candidates use.

Then you're a parrot. Squawk!

205 posted on 11/26/2011 11:28:06 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: P-Marlowe

The bill Newt voted for in 1986 said to secure the border and they promised to enforce the law. Now you say since they haven’t done that we need new laws by the same people who didn’t do what they said they would do the last time.

Insanity.

The laws are already on the books. The border has never been secured. That has to get done. That promise to defend the borders and enforce the law must be kept. Yes an entire generation has been lost but you don’t correct that evil with another mistake.

Correct the original mistake. Change the abortion laws. Protect the unborn. Secure the borders and enforce the law. Allowing illegals to remain here does not protect the unborn. In fact, it gives the democrats, the very ones who don’t care about the unborn, more power. You really are not thinking. Some people will grab hold of anything, including the innocent murdered babies, to manipulate thinking and advance their cause.

I’m absolutely disgusted. This is shameful.


206 posted on 11/26/2011 11:34:28 AM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Windflier

Ok, not bad.


207 posted on 11/26/2011 11:35:26 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Fantasywriter

You’re wasting your time with me. Go find some other way to vent and get the attention that you apparently need.


208 posted on 11/26/2011 11:37:14 AM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-Bolton-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: BobL; xzins; wmfights
I think that President Cain will surprise a LOT of people when he does start to enforce the laws.

Cain is just making it up as he goes along. He doesn't have a clue how to govern. He didn't sign the pro-life pledge because the thought the President has no authority to "advance legislation." He does not understand politics or history.

He's saying all the stuff you want to hear, but I am not convinced he believes half of what he says.

It is going to be Romney, Perry or Gingrich. And the way everyone wants to destroy Gingrich at this point does nothing but ensure a Romney victory.

209 posted on 11/26/2011 11:37:29 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Gator113

Now you’re my psychoanalyst? Projection, much?


210 posted on 11/26/2011 11:38:22 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Windflier

I agree depriving them of govt welfare will help...that is a states issue and we see how well that is working for current citizens.

Securing the border will solve a LOT of the problems of illegals already here because once they go home ( and many do go back and forth), many will be gone.


211 posted on 11/26/2011 11:39:00 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Lady Lucky
I agree with Cain, for the most part, on that point: the states are the ones closest to the problem and should be allowed to deal with it. There are some points at which the fed gov would be better, or should at least be involved, particularly to standardize the process, which ultimately aims to remove illegal immigrants. Border states especially ought to be given (no pun intended) wide latitude. Much as in the case of Louisiana having the authority to reject federal troops after Katrina hit, the fed gov should be mainly there by invitation only. And this is regardless whether Republicans prevail in the elections or not. Even a Republican Congress and President aren’t going to do better than to get behind the states. (Of course, where established law already stipulates that the federal government has the authority, the fed govt can and should function in those regards.) Ten or twenty states with laws like Alabama’s, I think we’d have a much smaller problem overall.

Your post sums up this problem and presents the solution all in one neat package. Thanks for the post!
212 posted on 11/26/2011 11:41:07 AM PST by Rooivalk
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To: concerned about politics
My point is this - the Washington insiders have chosen Romney. THEY believe he's middle of the road enough to get the "independent" vote (ugh!). Because of that, they're doing what they can to get him on top by election day. The uninformed will take him. WE'LL get stuck with him.

I'm matching wavelengths with you on that point. Yes, Romney IS being intentionally foisted on the Republican electorate. Freepers and other well-informed conservatives see this clearly, and are duly alarmed about it.

In the end, though, the people will be the ones who control whether he gets the nomination or not. It's up to us to make sure that our brothers and sisters on the right are informed enough to give him the thumbs down.

We can't win an election by ourselves. We're going to have to support SOMEONE, or Romney will simply move in the fill the empty space we've left for him.

So what's wrong with supporting Herman Cain? Just because Newt's fallen and can't get up, doesn't mean that Cain won't rise again. It's our choice to make - not the elites.

213 posted on 11/26/2011 11:41:30 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Lady Lucky

Immigration/DREAM Act

In his 21st Century Contract with America, Newt pledges to control the southern border by January 1, 2014, waiving any regulations and pushing aside any bureaucracies that get in the way.

Newt believes America must be a nation of laws. The first duty of the federal government is national defense, and it is inexcusable that we haven’t secured the border. In his 21st Century Contract with America, Newt pledges to control the southern border by January 1, 2014, waiving any regulations and pushing aside any bureaucracies that get in the way.

As we secure the border, we must make an aggressive and serious effort to deport all criminals, gang members, and any other threats to our society as quickly as possible. We must also tap into the ingenuity of the private sector to better validate who is in the United States legally.

Newt opposed the DREAM Act. However, he did agree with part of the legislation which allowed those who came to the United States illegally as children to serve in the U.S. Military to earn their citizenship, just as foreign nationals are today allowed to do the same.

Furthermore, Newt has proposed giving local communities the authority to allow those with long established roots in the neighborhood a legal residency status, but not citizenship. Newt believes local communities are at a better vantage point to determine if those there illegally should stay or go. Under this system, we will send home those with no family or community ties and quickly deport those who have committed criminal and other destructive acts, while providing minimal disruption to families and communities.

Read Newt’s 10 step immigration plan here.


214 posted on 11/26/2011 11:42:01 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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To: Jim Robinson

Well stated. Anyone that believes Illegal Immigration is a “single issue” has not been paying attention.


215 posted on 11/26/2011 11:43:27 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Lady Lucky
Do we deal with people (civil OR criminal offenders) collectively?

None of the candidates have said we do or we should.

Wrong. Herman Cain said in the last debate that the answer is to simply enforce the laws on the books. That approach doesn't preclude dealing with the illegals either collectively, or individually.

The law is the law. It addresses a behavior, which our Congress has deemed illegal. It doesn't matter if one person or millions of individuals have broken that law, it's still illegal under our system.

In my view, you're trying to draw a distinction without a difference. Sorta how the liberals try to get us conservatives to see the 'nuance' in such matters. I don't care if we deal with hundreds at a time, or thousands, or single individuals. They broke our laws, and they need to answer for it, wherever we find them.

216 posted on 11/26/2011 11:49:24 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: P-Marlowe

“Cain is just making it up as he goes along. He doesn’t have a clue how to govern. “

Even if true, his “making this stuff up” has put him MUCH CLOSER to my values (i.e., keeping America American) than the “geniuses” like Newt and Perry.


217 posted on 11/26/2011 11:54:08 AM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: xzins
It is not one of the great issues of our day.

You're living in an alternate universe.

218 posted on 11/26/2011 11:54:58 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

So you guys are looking for a mouthpiece, not a leader…
Newt, get used to it!


219 posted on 11/26/2011 11:56:20 AM PST by bksanders (Spewing Forth Vitriol at the Speed of Spit)
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To: P-Marlowe; BobL; wmfights; Alamo-Girl; Jim Robinson

Cain owns the weirdest life position in the history of the issue:

His position appears to be: **feel-free-to-illegally-kill-you-babies-if-you-really-have-to**

Is that a quasi-life position or an anti-life position?

It pretty well disqualifies Cain from consideration by me for the presidency.


220 posted on 11/26/2011 11:57:09 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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