[kearnyirish2]

We fought to protect South Vietnam, and it fell 2 years after we left; I don’t see a win or a tie in that. The fact that our country is now led by communists indicates to me that they won.

[oh8eleven]

We fought to protect South Vietnam, and it fell 2 years after we left; I don’t see a win or a tie in that.
You must have gone to public schools. Allow me to explain.
All sides signed the 1973 Treaty of Paris, with North VN agreeing NOT to invade the south. At the least I'd call that a "tie."
Then, North VN broke the treaty by invading across the DMZ not once, but twice, and the second time they were successful.