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To: SumProVita

There is really no way to gather up between 10 and 20 million people and ship them somewhere else without massive violence and mass casualties. Police would have to be involved in raiding houses and arresting people. Look how much trouble one Elian Gonzales raid was, and then repeat that 10 million more times. I don’t think I’ve heard anyone talk about just how they’d go about locating, gathering up, and shipping off that many people.

1) seal the border
2) make English the official language
3) turn off the magnet - no welfare benefits to non-citizens
4) establish a guest worker system where anyone in the county illegally has to register for a card to be allowed to work legally. Registering for that card establishes the location of the illegals, and gives an indication of the number of illegals that are really here. I’d bet it’s a lot more than 12 million.

Now that the influx has stopped, the magnet is off, and you know how many are here and where they are, figure out if and how you’re going to deport them.

Any solution that starts with “deport them all” unfortunately won’t work. They’re not going to politely raise their hands, line up, and go peacefully home. We don’t know where they are now, so what makes anyone think we could even find them all? Are we willing to raid a Catholic church that’s offering sanctuary?

I think it’s fine to criticize Newt, but I don’t think I’ve heard a workable plan that addresses the entire problem besides the one he is proposing.


31 posted on 11/26/2011 5:40:42 AM PST by pie_eater
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To: pie_eater
There is really no way to gather up between 10 and 20 million people and ship them somewhere else without massive violence and mass casualties.

And yet another poster who offers up the amnesty or boxcars false dichotomy while ignoring the perfectly rational approach to creating conditions to where illegals want to self-deport.

32 posted on 11/26/2011 5:58:10 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: pie_eater

“1) seal the border
2) make English the official language
3) turn off the magnet - no welfare benefits to non-citizens
4) establish a guest worker system where anyone in the county illegally has to register for a card to be allowed to work legally. Registering for that card establishes the location of the illegals, and gives an indication of the number of illegals that are really here. I’d bet it’s a lot more than 12 million.

Now that the influx has stopped, the magnet is off, and you know how many are here and where they are, figure out if and how you’re going to deport them.”

And you can’t see that #4 creates the MAGNET that you’re trying to shut off????

Why do we even have to talk legalization NOW? Why doesn’t Newt or whoever simply demonstrate that they can build a wall and from there, after the wall is built (and hopefully electrified), we can talk about the illegals. They’ve been here for decades, they can wait another 2 years.

...but no, we ALWAYS have to tie legalization, or amnesty, when talking about securing the border. WHY???????????


45 posted on 11/26/2011 7:39:08 AM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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