[RainMan]

And which candidate is it that you think supports what you want? You crap all over Gingrich, but he says secure the border first, enforce the laws that are currently on the books. Right now, the illegals CANNOT go in the military under current law ... that is the part of the Dream Act that Gingrich said he supported. Gingrich is against amnesty, and he is against giving them citizenship, which is what all candidates that want to do what you want done would have to say. Gingrich is for English being the national language. You keep saying Gingrich is for amnesty, but he never said that. By denying them citizenship, and enforcing current law, benefits would dry up, which would accomplish YOUR goal of getting them to self deport.

Long story short, Bachman purposely lied about what Newt said, and Mittens picked up on it and also tried to put words in Newts mouth. 3 times he clarified HIS message, and they kept trying to call it something else. You have been SCREAMING on here for 3 days now about Newt, and if you would shut up and actually look at what HE has said, not what MB or MR said he said, you would see he is for exactly what you are describing!

[no-to-illegals]

It would be nice to believe. I no longer believe any who have had their chance.

[org.whodat]

Wrong, I have said for weeks, newt is a POS, nothing new about that. Newt likes to run his mouth, because he thinks he is smarter than everyone. Anyone that has watched him anytime at all knows, it is just the same old loop. Newt reminds me of the days when I was was in teck school in the air force. We had told the same jokes so many times we numbered them and everyone just said the number and we all laughed. And non deportation by a red card are any de facto method is amnesty. He used the same old line years ago, and he voted for the Reagan amnesty and said that was the end. He lied.

and just so you are up to date jorge signed a waver and let over twenty thousand illegals join the military. You can look it up. It is fact.