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Gingrich’s immigration plan: Strategy, not amnesty
Hot Air ^ | 11/25/2011 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 11/25/2011 11:40:23 AM PST by TBBT

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To: jessduntno

I guess that I’m just “heartless” then...I simply refuge to have ANY SYMPATHY for these people because I know what will follow:

1) 25 years becomes 20 becomes 12 becomes 5 years.
2) Having roots in the US becomes showing a water bill
3) 12 million people become 30 million due to undercounting
4) 30 million becomes 60 million as families are brought North
5) The Supreme Court refuses to permit 15% of legal Americans to be non-voters.
6) The Republican Party is finished as a major political party simply due to demographics involving voting patterns.
7) The United States, as it was known for 235 years is FINISHED, and we become a country that wants to be like Europe, but wind up more like Mexico.

Since I have kids, I don’t want that outcome. It will take about 20 years for this country to cease. There is a reason that I am “heartless” and want them back. For if they go home, none of the above happens...at least for a couple of generations, at least.

Newt may be the smartest man in the room, but he should take some time to learn demographics...because demographics determines destiny, ALWAYS.


121 posted on 11/25/2011 9:03:08 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: Fantasywriter

You paint the exact same picture of illegals as do the radical leftists at DU. It’s always this idyllic, idealistic image of great Americans who just happen to have been illegal so many years ago nobody cares any more.”

No, that was the scenario everybody crucified Newt for. No one is naive enough to think that they are all like that, you know better. Get a grip. Cases like that DO EXIST. I know some. And no, they are not all scourges here. The problem is, to some people they are...that is the problem. You can’t make a statement like that they are all scourges. It’s sick.


122 posted on 11/25/2011 9:06:15 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: BobL

“I guess that I’m just “heartless” then...I simply refuge to have ANY SYMPATHY for these people because I know what will follow:”

Oh yeah? Who’s gonna win the eighth at Santa Anita tomorrow?

I don’t know what you are but it ain’t clairvoyant.


123 posted on 11/25/2011 9:08:38 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: jessduntno

Did you even read my post? Are you reading comprehension challenged? I said the majority do not fit your description. But under the proposed plan, we get them all. The criminals, the rapists, the drunk drivers—anybody who claims they’ve been here the prescribed time. I repeat: we cannot prove they haven’t been. That’s the beauty of being illegal. You don’t need documentation. So along w the few that fit your rarified description, we get all kinds of criminals and leaches. A fact which appears to bother you Not At All.


124 posted on 11/25/2011 9:11:54 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: jessduntno

“Oh yeah? Who’s gonna win the eighth at Santa Anita tomorrow?”

If you think that 60,000,000 new people from south of the border will help the Republicans, then I guess Mitt is the man for you.


125 posted on 11/25/2011 9:20:38 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: Fantasywriter

“Did you even read my post? Are you reading comprehension challenged? I said the majority do not fit your description. But under the proposed plan, we get them all.”

1. Yes.
2. No.
3. Bullshit.

If you can’t prove where you’ve been for 25 years, you’re a spook or an illegal. Either way, you get deported. THAT is the plan. Good grief, who has scared you so badly?

“Mr. Gingrich said that under his proposals, millions of people who had come to the United States illegally — but recently — would be sent home. But he added that the Republican candidates should “unify the country” by having an honest conversation about what should be done with everyone else.”


126 posted on 11/25/2011 9:24:05 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: BobL

If you think that 60,000,000 new people from south of the border will help the Republicans, then I guess Mitt is the man for you.

“Mr. Gingrich said that under his proposals, millions of people who had come to the United States illegally — but recently — would be sent home. But he added that the Republican candidates should “unify the country” by having an honest conversation about what should be done with everyone else.”

Mitt can go screw.


127 posted on 11/25/2011 9:25:08 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: jessduntno

How are they going to ‘prove’ who has been here 25 yrs? How??? It’s impossible, and if you’d think about it for five minutes you would realize that. It’s a scam, and as usual law-abiding American citizens are the ones being scammed.

Read up on California. It used to be the Golden State. It used to be the seventh largest economy in the world. Illegals have turned it into a third world dump. They helped elect Governor Moonbeam, to finish the job of killing what little remains of the former clean, beautiful state.

No, seriously. Learn what happened to CA. That is what you’re advocating on a nationwide basis. Fortunately, you’re still in the minority.


128 posted on 11/25/2011 9:29:30 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: jessduntno

““Mr. Gingrich said that under his proposals, millions of people who had come to the United States illegally — but recently — would be sent home. But he added that the Republican candidates should “unify the country” by having an honest conversation about what should be done with everyone else.””

Unfortunately Newt will not have the final word once the floodgates are opened...judges will.

As to unifying the country, there is history. Ask the Romans how unifying with people from the east worked out for them.

At some point AMERICANS have to stand up and stop COWERING to these people. If Romney refuses to do it, then we better get someone else to...or we lose that chance, FOREVER.


129 posted on 11/25/2011 9:30:41 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: Fantasywriter

Fantasywriter, I just happened upon this thread.

I agree with everything you say!


130 posted on 11/25/2011 9:39:57 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: BobL

“At some point AMERICANS have to stand up...”

There ya go...


131 posted on 11/25/2011 9:40:42 PM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: little jeremiah

Greetings, lj—great to see you! I hope you had a warm and blessed Thanksgiving. I am, believe it or not, on my way out the door. [I have an assignation w certain feral cats. ;) ] I will check in again upon my return. :)


132 posted on 11/25/2011 9:42:31 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: BobL

Don’t forget newts canard that “if they attend church”. What cheesy pandering. Like that would be an allowable criteria to let illegals stay. Just newt setting up a false argument again.


133 posted on 11/26/2011 8:43:36 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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