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"US Candidate Gingrich, For The Regularization of Immigration Status for Millions" (El Molino)
El Molino Online (in Spanish, translated to English) ^ | 23 November 2011 | El Molino Staff Writers

Posted on 11/24/2011 11:04:26 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo

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To: berdie
What are you doing up so late? :-)

For answers, we need look no further than Alabama.

Just the knowledge that Alabama intends to enforce immigration law in the future has sent illegal aliens packing.

21 posted on 11/25/2011 12:34:01 AM PST by South40 (Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Mexico destroys family not America.

It is a failed state.


22 posted on 11/25/2011 12:55:06 AM PST by Fred ("The terrorists' want to kill us, so we need to kill them first!" http://hermancain.com)
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To: dixiechick2000
There is no such thing as a migrants immigrant, you either come here legally are you are an illegal. If you are confusing those with legal farm workers, those people have papers saying what they are, we have 14 different programs for seasonal farm workers.
23 posted on 11/25/2011 1:00:01 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: South40
Berdie is an owl, lol.

Both the Alabama and Arizona attempts to enforce illegal immigration laws have been admirable, imo. They have forced their illegals to flee...to other states. The Feds have stymied their attempts to have any impact..

It is a Federal obligation to enforce this law. I think we agree on that.

But unless the Feds come up with a plan that will actually be enforceable..I don't see that there will be an answer that most in this country will support.

IMHO, end the anchor babies, chain migration, benefits to illegals, enforce employer penalties=self deportation. But that would have to happen on a national level.

But if people have been here most of their lives, paid taxes, took no public assistance...perhaps there should be some assistance. Not blanket amnesty. Not citizenship.

I have appreciated our civil discourse.:) Doesn't happen often these days.

24 posted on 11/25/2011 1:03:40 AM PST by berdie
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To: berdie
I have appreciated our civil discourse.:) Doesn't happen often these days.

There is no reason why it shouldn't. But you are right, it doesn't happen much and I appreciate it also.

Bedtime for Bonzo.

Have a good night.

25 posted on 11/25/2011 1:09:18 AM PST by South40 (Just say NO to amnesty. Say NO to Newt!)
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To: South40

You have a good night as well. :)


26 posted on 11/25/2011 1:12:06 AM PST by berdie
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Young people used to go home for the holidays. To the house they grew up in and had so many fond memories. It felt good to be with your family and the friends you grew up with.

Now, young people go to their parent’s house for the holidays. Their house is theirs, you have no attachment to it or the neighborhood because Americans were forced to move out of Los Angeles when Mexicans moved in.

The old neighborhood is unrecognizable with the smell of tamales in the air on Christmas morning.

And Gingrich feels for the invaders.


27 posted on 11/25/2011 1:37:08 AM PST by Haddit (Heartless)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
" Translation: US Presidential Candidate Newt Gingrich, Republican, For The Regularization of Immigration Status for Millions"

Translation : Illegals " We don't need no stinking Democrats to vote for when we can vote for CRINGO GRINO GINGRICH for his gracious Christmas gift, :
Chico and the man GRINO GRINGRICH 2012 !! Sarcasm..

Tune up the Mexican Band :

Feliz Navidad
Feliz Navidad
Feliz Navidad
Prospero Año y Felicidad.

Feliz Navidad
Feliz Navidad
Feliz Navidad
Prospero Año y Felicidad.

28 posted on 11/25/2011 1:43:32 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: federal__reserve

Those who have come here through the Legal process, and have assimilated themselves to the American ways, who are loyal to America and the US Constitution we consider as Americans just like you and me.....


29 posted on 11/25/2011 1:46:24 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: dixiechick2000; South40

“Applicants must first pass a criminal background check”

How could any illegal pass such a check ? They entered the country ILLEGALLY or overstayed their visa ILLEGALLY! They have either NOT PAID TAXES, which is illegal, or they committed identity theft by using someone else’s SS#.

Either way, they have committed multiple crimes.

I’d like to think Newt is being clever to get the Latino vote, knowing nobody will actually qualify and must be deported after all. Unfortunately, I think it much more likely that any such “regularization” bill would amnesty them from any crimes RELATED to their being here illegally. So identity theft, fraud, tax evasion ... all will be forgiven as necessary to make this grand new amnesty plan workable. Only the most violent crimes will cause their rejection under this new amnesty.


30 posted on 11/25/2011 1:46:41 AM PST by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: dixiechick2000
" None of them will be made citizens, as was the original Bush amnesty plan. "

So what are they then ? on loan from Mexico on a permanent bases ?
31 posted on 11/25/2011 1:50:56 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: dixiechick2000; South40

Just because they don’t get citizenship doesn’t mean it isn’t amnesty. If they are not held accountable to the law as it existed at the time they violated it, they are getting amnesty. The law they violated REQUIRES deportation and anything else IS AMNESTY.


32 posted on 11/25/2011 1:53:28 AM PST by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: berdie
" But actually, my question is..how should this problem be dealt with in today’s p.c. world? "

Political Correctness IS part of the problem, just like Global Warming Hoax is political correctness.
33 posted on 11/25/2011 1:53:28 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: berdie
" But if people have been here most of their lives, paid taxes, took no public assistance...perhaps there should be some assistance "

What about those who were born here or been here for generations, who have paid their taxes, took no public assistance, but on the contrary, the government put's more and more burdens on them ?
34 posted on 11/25/2011 1:57:25 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Haddit

I say, putting more burdens on the tax payer who has had family here for generations, or was born here who abide by the law is what is called : heartless and inhumane.


35 posted on 11/25/2011 2:00:36 AM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I agree, send any illegal alien and their children home first, if they are on any public assistance.

Our government already knows where they live and knows the parents are illegal.


36 posted on 11/25/2011 2:07:16 AM PST by Haddit (Heartless)
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To: berdie

“paid taxes”

Either they didn’t pay taxes and are guilty of tax evasion, or they paid taxes using somebody else’s SS# which is fraud, perjury, and identify theft. Americans who commit these crimes are imprisoned, yet foreigners should get a free pass for doing the same thing ? So even the people who were brought here as children began breaking the law of their own choice when they became adults.


37 posted on 11/25/2011 2:09:16 AM PST by Kellis91789 (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.)
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To: South40

Yes, I did. And Newt’s plan is amnesty.

As Amnesty has been previously described, I disagree. It is not citizenship, voting rights and full benefits, however, if you listened to Rush on Wednesday, he opined, wondering just how long it would take the ACLU lawyers to file for the full monty. So there is much more to the issue.

I think the separating families talking point is a bastardized issue. To me it is an issue of choice. You have a choice, the illegal leaves, or you all leave. simple. After all if you chose to hook up with an illegal, you are part of the problem. I guess I’m heartless.

What could be more heartless than letting the country self destruct financially, because of an open border.


38 posted on 11/25/2011 2:22:09 AM PST by wita
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To: dixiechick2000

A system like Gingrich suggests is not humane: it sets up an entire class of people as non-citizens in our nation. That is wrong.

What this really is, is an attempt to appease businesses who use illegal alien labor, period.

If Gingrish cannot follow the law like any leader is supposed to instead of coming up with tortuous schemes to circumvent the law, then he isn’t worthy to be President of the U.S.A.


39 posted on 11/25/2011 2:40:41 AM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Kellis91789
"Just because they don’t get citizenship doesn’t mean it isn’t amnesty. If they are not held accountable to the law as it existed at the time they violated it, they are getting amnesty. The law they violated REQUIRES deportation and anything else IS AMNESTY.

I just had to post this a second time. You stated this so clearly everyone should understand it. Thank you!

40 posted on 11/25/2011 2:55:46 AM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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