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To: wardaddy

Rationally I’d like to see deportation. Logically it’s not likely.

I’m anti-illegal as anyone, I support the AZ/AL movements. I’d like to see them go nation-wide.

I don’t think any GOP president is going to even go that far. Maybe Bachmann, but who knows in the end.


63 posted on 11/23/2011 11:27:24 PM PST by Tolaei1
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To: Tolaei1

Congress nor the citizenry would let them go full bore.

Best we can do is hope to start catching the newer onews with no roots.

Going door to door is crazy....even most conservatives would wince and women and babies thrown on buses.

What Newt proposed was a database to account for them and make decision and know who they are so we can draw some distinction for who is allowed to apply for legal guest permit and deported.

he did not say amnesty

some will get it eventually...no question of that or at least their kids will

meanwhile close the door and enforce would help more than anything


247 posted on 11/25/2011 8:42:09 AM PST by wardaddy (Michelle, Sarah, Perry now Newt over Mitt.....that is how I've seen it and it's where we are)
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To: Tolaei1

I have advocated - and I’m completely serious - allowing border guards to shoot-to-kill anyone crossing the border. It’s a violation of our sovereignty.

I also favor a fence. I’d even go for Cain’s electified fence. I support strict sanctions on employers also.

But the country is NOT going to deport otherwise law-abiding people who’ve been here for a long time and have families. Even if WE think it’s the right thing to do - guess what, we’re in the minority.

Newt’s plan of a case-by-case evaulation with NO citizenship at the end of the rainbow makes as much sense as anything I’ve head that’s likely to ever happen.

What many here don’t seem to realize that the important goal is to make sure illegals never get citizenship. So long as that’s part of the package, who really cares about anything else?

And believe me, it will be a VERY hard fight with those who think they should get full citizenship. Remember McStain was for just that....pay a fine, become a citizen. Newt’s plan does NOT - I repeat, does NOT - grant citizenship. He’s playing chess while the wild-eyed purists are playing an emotional game of checkers. He knows demographics are hurling us toward true amnesty if we can’t somehow stop it. Work permits with the understanding there will be no citizenship is the way to do it.

I know, I know, deport them all.

Yawn.

Hank


279 posted on 11/25/2011 6:08:36 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: Tolaei1

I have advocated - and I’m completely serious - allowing border guards to shoot-to-kill anyone crossing the border. It’s a violation of our sovereignty.

I also favor a fence. I’d even go for Cain’s electified fence. I support strict sanctions on employers also.

But the country is NOT going to deport otherwise law-abiding people who’ve been here for a long time and have families. Even if WE think it’s the right thing to do - guess what, we’re in the minority.

Newt’s plan of a case-by-case evaulation with NO citizenship at the end of the rainbow makes as much sense as anything I’ve head that’s likely to ever happen.

What many here don’t seem to realize that the important goal is to make sure illegals never get citizenship. So long as that’s part of the package, who really cares about anything else?

And believe me, it will be a VERY hard fight with those who think they should get full citizenship. Remember McStain was for just that....pay a fine, become a citizen. Newt’s plan does NOT - I repeat, does NOT - grant citizenship. He’s playing chess while the wild-eyed purists are playing an emotional game of checkers. He knows demographics are hurling us toward true amnesty if we can’t somehow stop it. Work permits with the understanding there will be no citizenship is the way to do it.

I know, I know, deport them all.

Yawn.

Hank


280 posted on 11/25/2011 6:08:55 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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