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To: VinL

I would not count Cain out or anyone except Huntsman and Paul. Pauls ridiculous foreign policy is killing him. Huntsman is the most liberal of the group and is being supported by the msm and the reason is will be included in the debates.

If one was intellectually honest Newt did not shoot himself in the foot on immigration. His detractors will of course promote lies and half-truths about what Newt said in order to support their candidate.

IMHO the field is still open and a lot will happen down the road. I am glad to see Mitt still stuck in the low 20’s.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 11:53:10 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

Absolutely!!! have you ever heard Cain or Bachmann expand on how they plan to deport 20 million illegals? that come from not only Mexico but around the world? buses? planes? ships? the old dirge of “build a fence” is something Newt agrees with along with a federal data bank..at least Newt has been honest and expanded on this issue. Anyone that listened or has read Newt’s solutions KNOWS that he is not for granting amnesty to families that have lived her for 20 yrs or so...but he is for putting them through a process wherein they may obtain citizenship after they are fined and they have to go to the back of the line.
OK ..Cain and Bachmann folks...how are your candidates going to round up the 20 million? and the magnet defense is not an answer


39 posted on 11/23/2011 2:17:29 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Parley Baer
If one was intellectually honest Newt did not shoot himself in the foot on immigration

Exactly right.

He treast the American people as if they weren't ignoramuses.

The other candidates play the sound bite, sound good card...but I notice not ONE of them had given a plan of just how they would deport 12 million people.they know it can't/won't be done.

And already, the left is climbing aboard with 'you can't let someone STAY just because they've provided for and raised a a family for a quarter of a century, not been in trouble with the law, is church going - over anyone else. they should all be treated 'equally." PUKE.

Right. Let's treat the ones that didn't bleed the system and/or have a record, his family all on welfare, etc, the same as the hypothetical guy Newt spoke of.

Newt is thinking "free Capitalist Society" and they are demanding Socialist rules.

Newt has also said, over and over (and Bachman knows this - she is starting to hiss) that FIRST and foremost: Close the Border. He says make sure laws re employment are enforced. He says if you're a recent 'cross over' you're going home...if you've committed crimes, you're going home, etc.

If we even had an honest moderator, when the others, playing to the people, say they'd deport them all - ask them how they would accomplish that.

It may be that the only error in Newt's judgement is that he trusts that there's enough of the American people left that have a brain.

44 posted on 11/23/2011 6:21:05 PM PST by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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