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To: Stat Man
Newt's being realistic?

There are likely closer to 40 million folks here illegally, not the often trumpeted 11 million. How can an economy ever be fixed carrying that many additional people? To the best of my knowledge, there is no way an illegal alien can work legally in this Country. But, there are numerous ways illegal aliens can acquire Government benefits. By adding more and more illegals to our society, our system of government will eventually implode. I can't see an alternative.

To the politician, they don't truly see amnesty as “humane”. They see a huge voting block, meaning they care more about their own political careers than they do our Country. If they're truly honest in their beliefs about being humane, why not let everyone from an oppressed society worldwide come here? If the humanity argument is solely based upon Hispanics, why doesn't the US officially take over Mexico? Then we could take care of the millions living in poverty while providing stability to the region and acquiring Mexico's national resources.

As to deportation, if our government enforced our current laws, making things far less comfortable, much of the illegal immigration population would eventually self deport.

I had a strong suspicion that Newt (much like the Republican Party) would eventually say something to shoot himself in the foot. It appears that the old Newt probably isn't too different from the revised “Conservative” Newt 2.0.

Odds just increased again for a major Third Party candidate in 2012.

311 posted on 11/23/2011 2:24:09 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought
By adding more and more illegals to our society, our system of government will eventually implode.

Newt's not for that. His plan was 1) close the border, 2) begin deporting illegals. Subtracting some, but not all, does not equal adding more.

making things far less comfortable, much of the illegal immigration population would eventually self deport.

Yep, much of it would. But guess which ones wouldn't. The ones with kids and grandkids who have put down roots. Oh yeah, the same ones Newt was talking about.

Odds just increased again for a major Third Party candidate in 2012.

Or in other words, odds just increased that we get another four years of Obama. Not because of anything smart Democrats are doing. And it's not just that Newt "shot himself in the foot"... no, it takes the stubborn stupidity and self-righteousness of conservatives with a 100% purity test who bury him over one issue that he's not 100% perfect on. Dang. I DON'T AGREE with that part of his plan. But if he closed the border and began deporting illegals he'd be one million times better than any president in my lifetime. So I'm not going to criticize him because I disagree with him, when MY view probably couldn't be accomplished by a president anyway, and if tried would pretty much guarantee a Democrat would win in 2016.

324 posted on 11/23/2011 3:12:19 AM PST by Stat Man
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