Little Noticed Provision Kills ATF Shotgun Ban Plans

Ammoland ^ | 19 November, 2011 | Evan F. Nappen

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I bought a Saiga 12, went to shoot it on a cold alaska day, and the magazine shattered ont he first and only shot I every fired from it. Sold it and got a mossberg 930 semi-auto. The mossberg is very functional and reliable...What I absolutely couldn't get over was that the safety is on the top of the rear receiver like a standard mossberg, and you cannot reach it while holding the pistol grip.

I sold mine and got a Benelli M4 after months of saving....Worth every penny !

[Joe Brower]

Best news I've heard all day.

[DCBryan1]

Thanks for the Ping!

Now if we can just get 18 USC 922 (o) repealed "under the radar", I'd be a happy camper....hell in fact, lets undo Chapter 4 of the GCA ;)

[Durus]

It's a good start but I fear it could just be pro-gun resume fodder for those seeking re-election. We need sweeping arms control reversal.

[Noumenon]

Thank the Lord that I got a matched pair of Benelli M1 Super 90s back when I could afford them. Superb fighting shotguns, and decent game-getters when you need it.

[Titan Magroyne]

Great news for those of us who are fans of the semi-auto imports!

But what about domestic manufacture or import of HDW and PDW configuration shotguns - (particularly the pistol grip-no buttstock) Mossie 500 or Remmie 870? I thought the ATF was turning its sights against those as well.

[Nervous Tick]

>> the safety is on the top of the rear receiver like a standard mossberg, and you cannot reach it while holding the pistol grip

Didn’t think of that! Thanks for pointing it out.

[Nervous Tick]

>> got a Benelli M4

That’s a pretty shotgun. In stock at Bud’s! But 4 + 1? Seems like a low capacity for an auto.

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Because it's imported, it was limited capacity in stock configuration. You can swap out the mag tube for higher capacity as long as you use US made components to maintain 922R complaince.

These guys have all the details and top notch parts.

http://www.shop.carriercomp.com/category.sc?categoryId=4

The M4 is awesome. With this tube it holds 7 +1 in the chamber +1 in the "Ghost" position, under the bolt....so 9 2-3/4" shells !

[Nervous Tick]

>> I’m thinking down the road for something my wife could fire without dislocating her shoulder.

Being a manly man ‘n all, I really *enjoy* the shoulder separation I get from firing double-aught buck from my pump-action Mossy. And the bruise looks great under my wifebeater tee shirt.

But I, too, am lusting after an auto-shotgun... you know, just out of consideration for Mrs. Tick. Not that I can’t handle it.

That’s the same reason I bought us... er, I mean *her*... a Browning Automatic Rifle. :-)

[Enterprise]

LOL - me too. It’s out of consideration for my wife that I am considering buying a shotgun that’s not a shoulder buster.

[Nervous Tick]

Thanks for the info, SENTINEL! I really appreciate it.

With the mag extension we’re looking at close to 2 kilobucks... no doubt worth it though.

FRegards

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There are some Benelli factory collapsible stocks still around for sale as well. With a few more import for US parts swaps, you can install one on your shotgun and remain 922R complaint. In the collapsed position it makes a solid, fast cheekweld at the perfect height for a C-more red dot sight, which I highly recommend.

[yarddog]

I had a Benelli M1 super 90. It was a beautiful gun and sort of wicked looking.

The problem was it kicked harder than any gun I have ever owned. It kicked harder than my Siamese Mauser in 45-70. It kicked harder than my Grandpa’s old 12 gauge lightweight single barrel. It kicked harder than my Father’s Browning auto 5.

I finally sold it, just too much recoil. I really wish I had a Remington 11-87 with the police/military long mag short barrel, and pistol grip. I have arthritis pretty bad and the pistol grip is much easier for me to handle than the standard stock.

[Nervous Tick]

>> There are some Benelli factory collapsible stocks still around for sale as well. With a few more import for US parts swaps...

... at some point it’s OK to stop spending money on your shotgun... right? :-)

What’s the finish on that one? The color in unusual.

Thanks for the tip on the sight.

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That's not my m4, just some pic I found, it's black just funny lighting.....Don't put away your debit card just yet, you didn't even see the hot new thing in shotgun reloading tech !

These are called shotgun cards. They attach via an aerospace quality die-cut adhesive velcro to the side of your scattergun. When the card is empty you tear it off, pull another loaded one out of any standard ar-15 pouch and slap it up onto the velcro. They work great, and allow for dual weapons carriage with a single set of webgear.

[Nervous Tick]

Wow! That would set you up for a major firefight.

Besides blowing stuff up for fun and practice, I figure my most likely real-life “use case” would involve me half-awake in my underwear minus my glasses. I prolly wouldn’t have my ammo-vest on. :-)

I found a couple pages on dot sights, including a thorough technical explanation, if anyone cares...

http://home.comcast.net/~rob.novak/Shooting/red_dot_sights.html
http://www.bullseyepistol.com/dotsight.htm

[Red in Blue PA]

The Saiga is on my list too. This is great news.

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The thing I like the most about the dot sights is the lightning fast both eyes open target aquisition.

Aimpoint, Eotech and C-More all make quality products and have all been battle proven. C-more is the best bang for the buck at $300 or so IMHO, but you have to get what YOU like....Just like there is no "best" movie, there is no "best" setup, once basic reliability is proven.

[Tijeras_Slim]

Benellis are great, I shoot a Super Sport for Sporting Clays and it is a very reliable gun, plus with 1 ounce loads you can shoot 200-300 rounds a day without getting flinchy.