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To: ZX12R

hey Z

you are sadly misinformed.

SPAWAR, the Navy Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command has been doing independent research and has replicated the physics behind Nickel-Hydrogen’s LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions) that Rossi mentions as the basis of his invention. They conclusively proved radiation emissions.
I believe, but have not confirmed that SPAWAR is one of the groups who have purchased one of Rossi’s plants.

In addition, Rossi has a US patent application on his invention see here: http://ecatnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/USeCatPatentApplication.pdf

So he has his cards on the table, except for his hole cards, which somehow you think he should show you ...

that’s funny who are you that he should show you his proprietary intellectual property?

Lurking’


44 posted on 11/21/2011 3:44:14 PM PST by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: LurkingSince'98
Check it out:

Long but interesting read and multiple sources to separate rumor from fact

Believe it or not.

Small quote about SPAWAR

Rossi’s Mystery Customer Performs Disappearing Act, Twice Posted on November 12, 2011

On Nov. 2, John Brandon published a story on Andrea Rossi and his claim of an “energy catalyzer” on Fox News.

Brandon speculated, based on what he read on Sterling Allan’s free energy blog, that U.S. Navy’s Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center San Diego was Rossi’s mysterious customer and that they measured and verified Rossi’s test.

On Nov. 9, I asked James Fallin, the director of public affairs at SPAWAR San Diego, “is there any truth to the suggestion published on Fox News that SPAWAR is, or is considering purchasing any device from Andrea Rossi?”

“No truth at all,” Fallin wrote.

On Nov. 11, Mark Gibbs, writing for Forbes.com, wrote that Craig Brown, who operates the Free Energy Truth Web site, claimed that Rossi’s “first” customer was Austin, Texas, based National Instruments Corp.

Gibbs checked with National Instruments. According to John Pasquarette, Vice President of Corporate Marketing and eBusiness, National Instruments did not purchase a 1 MW cold fusion plant from Rossi.

Sander Olson, a writer for Next Big Future, contacted me yesterday about the SPAWAR rumor.

“After having read your articles on E-CAT and receiving independent confirmation from SPAWAR that they are not taking possession of any device from Rossi,” Olson wrote, “I have decided that he is almost certainly a fraud and [I] will not pursue an interview. I always suspected that he was a fraud and I now find the evidence overwhelming. Thank you for providing assistance in this matter.”

48 posted on 11/21/2011 4:56:41 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: LurkingSince'98
that’s funny who are you that he should show you his proprietary intellectual property?

He has no intellectual property that I know of, and an application is not a patent. Furthermore, I don't see how it's possible for him to establish the operability of his device, to the satisfaction of the examiner. His application is just more showboating and hoopla to go with the rest. It is simply not known if he actually has a working model or not, because he will not allow it to be examined. He just says he does, and you have to take it on faith. Mr. Rossi is someone that all people should be able to find ample reason to doubt. Calling him a crackpot is being generous.

As far as LENR goes, no one knows what is happening in these devices. It is a complete physics/chemistry mystery with limitless proposals of explanation offered, but no conclusions established whatsoever. Until it is found out what is behind these very small effects of barely detectable radiation, and for some unknown reason, the seeming LENR signature of extra heat, I remain overwhelmingly unimpressed with it's future and usefulness, after two decades of research.

I'm just a seagull I guess, because so far it just looks like a good FRingie magnet to me.
52 posted on 11/22/2011 5:18:38 AM PST by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: LurkingSince'98
So Rossi "has his cards on the table, except for his hole cards?" Let's examine his cards, according to your account:

1. SPAWAR has revolutionized physics without physicists' noticing.
2. Rossi has filed an application for a U.S. patent.
3 and higher: [top secret]

Are there any other cards you're counting but didn't mention in your post?
64 posted on 11/22/2011 3:06:18 PM PST by aNYCguy
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