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The History of Newt - Are Republicans ready to look past his transgressions?
The Weekly Standard ^ | November 28, 2011 issue | Fred Barnes

Posted on 11/21/2011 12:11:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: D-fendr

—So, I go for the most conservative candidate that has a chance of beating Zero.—

Any of them could beat zero.


41 posted on 11/21/2011 6:44:49 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ontap
Newt did not lobby anyone. He was a consultant along with hundreds of other consultants.

Oh, spare me. He was given money to promote Freddie when other pubbies were pushing for reform. You can pretend otherwise. I don't.

42 posted on 11/21/2011 6:48:19 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

—Simply hiring advisers to handle this mess, because the candidate is too ignorant to understand it for himself...—

That statement doesn’t make sense. The point of advisors is to eliminate ignorance. The word you want to use in that statement is “stupid”, which Cain ain’t.

The advisers don’t handle the mess. They “advise” the president, and then he handles it. That is the way it works. And what we are looking for is a president with leadership ability, something Cain has, and Newt does not. Newt is a congressman. Executive experience is key here.


43 posted on 11/21/2011 6:48:35 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: dirtboy
You're entitled to your opinions you are not entitled to your facts He was given money for his advice he did not contact one senator or congressman on behalf of Freddie or Fannie. I don't care who you support but you should at least educate yourself and work with truth not what you want the truth to be. Newt has plenty of faults you don't have to make any up
44 posted on 11/21/2011 7:00:31 AM PST by ontap
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To: dirtboy

You’re going to vote for Newt Gingrich. You might not like it, but you will.


45 posted on 11/21/2011 7:02:24 AM PST by Lazamataz (Monkeys do not like getting slapped, contrary to popular belief.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How can we look past them when he can’t say a complete paragraph without at least one “Callista and I”?


46 posted on 11/21/2011 7:04:22 AM PST by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: ontap
He was given money for his advice he did not contact one senator or congressman on behalf of Freddie or Fannie.

Uh, yeah, sure. Freddie just paid him for goodwill. You can choose to believe that. I don't.

I don't care who you support but you should at least educate yourself and work with truth not what you want the truth to be. Newt has plenty of faults you don't have to make any up

Once again, you would have me beleive that Newt was not paid for any influence over GOP Senators or House members wavering in the face of proposed GOP reforms of Fannie and Freddie.

Yeah, sure.

47 posted on 11/21/2011 7:07:29 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Lazamataz

I’ll write in my dog in the primary before I vote for Newt. At least my dog wouldn’t do anything worse than chase the squirrels on the White House lawn. Newt would join Michelle Obama in proposing a new federal program as to study why the squirrels are so fat.


48 posted on 11/21/2011 7:09:43 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

You’ll end up voting for Newt. It will pain you, and you may end up in tears, but it will happen.


49 posted on 11/21/2011 7:11:09 AM PST by Lazamataz (Monkeys do not like getting slapped, contrary to popular belief.)
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To: ontap
Gingrich made big bucks pushing corporate welfare

Newt Gingrich was a lobbyist, plain and simple

So if Gingrich is going to rely on a legalism to claim he's not a lobbyist, that same legalism defines him as engaged in "lobbying," which he has denied.

His only conceivable out: Yes, he was a consultant helping drug companies pass this bill, but when he was persuading conservatives to back the bill, that was on his own time, and out of his own personal convictions -- and it had nothing to do with the drug industry cash he was receiving at the time.

Are you ready to believe this about Gingrich?

Apparently some are.

50 posted on 11/21/2011 7:17:23 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: org.whodat

And you think the mods would be on your side?

Yer dreamin’, girl.


51 posted on 11/21/2011 7:55:09 AM PST by moonhawk (Broken Heart(less) Hobbit for Sarah...Now for Newt)
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To: cuban leaf
Any of them could beat zero.

I think that's dangerous thinking. Any of them would be much better and I'd vote for them, but we see folks even on here saying they wouldn't vote for some of our candidates.

52 posted on 11/21/2011 8:11:53 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

—I think that’s dangerous thinking.—

No. It’s RISKY thinking. And life is risk. There is no reward without risk. Play it safe and you get Dole. Play it safe and you get McCain. Play it safe and you get Romney.

Our founding fathers made bold, risky, decisions. I am thankful that they were not cowards.


53 posted on 11/21/2011 8:18:23 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: moonhawk
Peanut gallery, post, thanks.
54 posted on 11/21/2011 8:34:08 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: cuban leaf

Risk is a judgement call. In my opinion we risk the country our Founding Fathers left us.

So, i’m gonna disagree. Stopping this Regime is the critical objective.


55 posted on 11/21/2011 8:37:37 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

—So, i’m gonna disagree. Stopping this Regime is the critical objective.—

Well, to be fair, I also don’t think Obama will be a presidential candidate in 2012. I’ve actually been saying that for a couple of years and I feel stronger than ever that it is true. We’ll see, though.


56 posted on 11/21/2011 8:45:31 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ontap

“Including Ronald Reagan in that list not only dishonest its shows a mind set that makes this whole article suspicious.”

Are you not aware that Reagan was the first divorced person elected POTUS and to this day remains the ONLY person to hold that distinction? Before him, a divorcee being elected POTUS was unthinkable. The comment is actually quite correct historically. Nothing ‘dishonet’ about it.


57 posted on 11/21/2011 8:58:56 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: cuban leaf

“I also don’t think Obama will be a presidential candidate in 2012”

I don’t either. I think he will be forced to resign or just decide not to run when he realizes he is going to get crushed. Or he will be incarcerated in Leavenworth after an unsuccessful coup attempt.


58 posted on 11/21/2011 9:33:41 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The point is this: Gingrich probably has at least as good a chance of getting a pass on his various transgressions in 2012 as Reagan, Schwarzenegger, and Clinton did

Of course I know Reagan was divorced and he was devastated when Jane Wyman filed for divorce. To include him in the same sentence as A serial womanizer like Schwarzenegger and a woman abuser and probably rapist Clinton is an outrage Ronald Reagan had no so called transgressions to speak of.

59 posted on 11/21/2011 10:57:28 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

You’re lumping them together. Put in historical context of the time, it is a valid comment.


60 posted on 11/21/2011 11:21:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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