Posted on 11/20/2011 5:38:35 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion
Why in the world do you think nominating the one candidate the 0 Campaign PR machine can credibly paint as part of the DC Establishment in the minds of independent voters is going to work?
With the vast majority of Americans angry at professional politicians of both parties, why would you want to nominate the one candidate an incumbent President can position himself as the “outsider” against?
Newt said on the Piers show recently that he was anti-abortion except in the case of incest and rape (and life of the mother, implied). That’s fine with me but it may not pass a litmus test of others.
You are deluded if you think Newt only has an 8 point surge. But delusion is a funny disease in that it makes everyone sick BUT the one who has it.
You are right about Perry’s big plunge, which may be more like 25% or 28% than just 20%. And he’s plunged for the same reason Bachmann has plunged and that Santorum has not gained any traction IMO.
Cain and Newt have surged for the opposite reason.
[ You are obviously eaten up with class envy and connection envy. You are exposed ]
Maybe its not me that is exposed..... but you are..
Federal Reserve functionarys.. are not a class.. but they are connected..
Not only that but they are vetted to death before installation..
The are “some of” the guys behind the guys behind the guys..
And one (or a few) of them are running for President..
You know.. Plans “A, “B”, “C” and “D”... <<-(Ron Paul or Santorum)
Michele Bachmann is not one of them...
>> Why in the world do you think nominating the one candidate the 0 Campaign PR machine can credibly paint as part of the DC Establishment in the minds of independent voters is going to work? With the vast majority of Americans angry at professional politicians of both parties, why would you want to nominate the one candidate an incumbent President can position himself as the “outsider” against? > >
You really have a real problem with reading comprehension, don’t you.You see words, but if it doesn’t fit your assumption, you simply cannot compute. I mean, your synapses are just not firing.
First, I like Cain and Newt and would like to like Perry again. I would vote for whoever gets the nomination.
As for your very flawed assumptions above: Newt does have some problem with the insider issue, but that is not the only issue. He’s the best visionary and best debator and I happen to think debates will be more important in this campaign than ever before. THEY ALREADY HAVE BEEN. I also like a Cain Obama match up for different reasons, but I like it.
And while politicians are angry at professional politicians, they are much more angry at liberal professional politicians. They are not equally angry at all of them. You have bought into the liberal media BS on that point. Not valid. You might remember 2010? Many more liberal pro’s were put out than conservative pros.
Meanwhile, you continue to show yourself intellectually distanced from the man you almost worship. Cain has tremendous respect for Newt - and vise versa - and you have yet to even attempt to answer as to why you can’t get on the same page intellectually as your guy.
Because you can’t.
Bachmann should have never entered the GOP campaign for president. She is not presidential material but well placed as a congresswoman.
I agree. Michelle is done; she had her day at the top of the ABR contest but peaked too early and eerily seemed to attack anyone but Romney.
Of the GOP candidates running for the 'Anyone But Romney' title, Paul, Huntsman and Santorum have never had a chance at winning the Party's nomination. That has resulted in a "process of elimination" for the others:
Bachmann seemed to lead early on and her conservative credentials were strong, but her strategy of battle and style fell to the wayside as soon as Perry entered the race;
Then it was Perry's turn. He took himself out with debate performances that highlighted how inept his communication skills are and the word 'heartless' was the final straw for an audience that wanted him to be strong in the debates;
This opened the door for Herman Cain, a man who any Conservative wants to vote for if they feel he can win. It wasn't the trumped up allegations of Allred, et. al. that has dropped his numbers, it has been his and his campaign's response to each of the challenges posed, which includes Libya, abortion, electric fences, et. al. which has not been stellar, and thus the slippage in the polls;
Which has now led to the rise of Newt.
A 3% candidate trying to redefine and destroy a 30% candidate never works. It only angers those who are borderline on abandoning a lost cause, which pushes them over to another candidate who stands a chance.
I fully expect to hear about her dropping out any day.
The idea that one is not obsessed with the Federal Reserve equalling 100% support for the Federal Reserve is intellectual bankruptcy. Pun intended.
Is Bachmann going to get rid of the Fed? Or do you suppose that we should simply cede the Fed to those who are all big government liberals? Do you want to go to a full barter system?
>> Bachmann should have never entered the GOP campaign for president. She is not presidential material but well placed as a congresswoman. >>
You realize that this kind of coherent and measured analysis on your part will get you labelled as a pro choice liberal or part of the Federal Reserve cabal by her supporters? Just so you know....
>> A 3% candidate trying to redefine and destroy a 30% candidate never works. It only angers those who are borderline on abandoning a lost cause, which pushes them over to another candidate who stands a chance. >>
Especially when you consider that the 30% candidate used to be a 3% candidate and got 30 by praising his fellow Republicans, and the 3% used to be a 20% candidate and became the 3% candidate by trashing other Republicans.
Food for thought you would think.....
Are you kidding? Big Ed went into her campaign with the sole aim of TANKING IT, just like Mike Murphy did with Mittens in '08.
>> No I am in the camp of mr. jim, Newt is a frigging phony, that camp, newt is in it for his own power and glory , his out sized ego, and the big bucks, nothing more. >>
If Mr. Jim were running, that would be a whole different ball game. But I guess we’re going to polish the teacher’s apple.
As I’ve said, many many many times - yet you still ignore it - those criticisms of Newt are at least somewhat true. And yet, he has gone from low single digits right out of the gate to 25-30% now. And you still won’t answer as to why.
Oh right, he’s only surged 8%. I forgot.
She promised the Susan B. Anthony List that, given the chance, she would sign immoral, unconstitutional “fetal pain” legislation.
Whether or not the high paid consultants are missing it on purpose or through ignorance, it doesn’t change the fact that the candidates with the high paid consultants are indeed missing it.
I disagree with your read on the motives, but it doesn’t change the validity of my concept. The high paid consultants are an epic fail this time around for whatever the reason is.
Bachmann just looks so small and distant, as does anyone trying to use personal destruction to promote someone or something.
Wow, talk about nerve. MNJohnnie, how in the world did you know back in 2004 when you signed up that you would be supporting Cain and attacking CEW's (signup date of 2010) candidate? MNJohnnie, what did you do for 6 years waiting for the 2012 election?
I”m talking about lately - which you knew - but wanted to get a snark in anyway.
Congratulations.
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