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Bachmann Blasts Gingrich on Abortion
thepage.time.com ^ | November 19, 2011 | staff

Posted on 11/20/2011 5:38:35 AM PST by BarnacleCenturion

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To: C. Edmund Wright
... The Freepanoia syndrome.

Don't use that broad of a brush on this. I've fallen into that false sense before. It is the VOCAL few. You're battling some of the "stars" on this thread. Your perseverance and resilience is admirable. A little crazy, but still admirable.

121 posted on 11/20/2011 9:32:56 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: rovenstinez

Forget your (subtle) sarcasm tag?


122 posted on 11/20/2011 9:34:14 AM PST by OKSooner (Today's new tagline. Tomorrow's new tagline pending.)
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To: Lady Lucky
I don’t believe Newt’s rise is due to Cain’s fall in popularity. Rather it is because of Newt’s debate performances.

It's definitely about his debate performances. The defense that I would give to support my thesis is that Newt has had great debates from the get-go. However, he has ONLY moved up in the polls after the faltering of Bachmann, Perry and now Herman Cain. Last man standing.

123 posted on 11/20/2011 9:36:11 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Takes me back to the notion that really she's running for VP by running interference for The Mittster.

Has she ever criticized him about anything, like oh, say... Romneycare?

Maybe she has; I'm just axing.

124 posted on 11/20/2011 9:37:22 AM PST by OKSooner (Today's new tagline. Tomorrow's new tagline pending.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

>> CEW’s post #97 answers all of your “questions”. There is no PR cult of personality around Newt, manufactured or otherwise. He is simply a potential “last man standing” who can beat both Romney and then zer0, which is the objective. >>

Correct - and obvious to anyone with reading comprehension.
Correct - and perhaps an “anti cult” in fact.
Correct - and brilliant use of potential, making it more correct.
Correct - because if we don’t do that, nothing else matters.

On all four points. Thanks.


125 posted on 11/20/2011 9:43:30 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: org.whodat
No rant, of any kind except in your mind, the numbers are the numbers. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/11/18/is_newt_peaking_too_soon_112119.html

You can't really be this dense. Or can you? You must really be a Newt plant designed to make him look good by acting like you are against him and making yourself look like a fool.

First, you say Newt had nothing more than a meaningless 8% bump that his supporters were making a mountain out of a molehill over. Then I point out that Real Clear Politics showed his rise from 4% to 21%, demolishing your point into bits of dust. Then you switch to Vegas odds. And now you direct me to a link at Real Clear Politics while saying "the numbers are the numbers". And what does the article say? I quote:

"Newt Gingrich is the latest GOP hopeful to experience a sudden surge in his polling numbers. The former speaker of the House is now leading or tied for the lead in the last three national surveys, and is rising fast in Iowa".

The article you cite completely agrees with me and also obliterates your supposed point that Newt has had only a meaningless 8% bump in the polls. In fact, it questions whether Newt has risen too far too fast! ROFL!

The article itself links to the exact poll numbers that I cited, showing Newt's rise in the polls from 4% to 21% since August.

I do thank you for re-enforcing me point. Do you often sabotage your own argument like this? Are you self-loathing? Kick yourself much?

Nah, I think I'm right - you have got to be a Newt plant designed to make his detractors look like embiciles with arguments as sturdy as wet newspaper. I gotta hand it to you, it's a brilliant strategy and carried out quite effectively! You have me convinced! LOL
126 posted on 11/20/2011 9:49:45 AM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: Servant of the Cross

>> ... The Freepanoia syndrome......
Don’t use that broad of a brush on this. I’ve fallen into that false sense before. It is the VOCAL few. You’re battling some of the “stars” on this thread. Your perseverance and resilience is admirable. A little crazy, but still admirable.>>

Critique accepted, and you’re right. As for “a little crazy” - yes, you are right, a little crazy in that I am kind of like the detective Adrian Monk (TV show). He was OCD about things being in complete order. That was his gift and curse. That’s why he could solve crimes.

I am that way about linear arguments and logic. A curse? Yep, I can’t turn it off. But it’s also my strength. I engage in some of these food fights simply as a way to hone some skills and keep in touch with attitudes out there - and there is a method to my madness.

But yes, it is part madness.


127 posted on 11/20/2011 9:52:15 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: GLDNGUN

He’s not a Newt plant, but he is about as smart as a potted plant.


128 posted on 11/20/2011 9:54:16 AM PST by magritte
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To: magritte; GLDNGUN

dittos


129 posted on 11/20/2011 9:55:52 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: GLDNGUN

>> TO MNJohnnie: Again, your questions were answered, and since you didn’t like the answers you act like a child. Nobody here is saying Newt is a saint, but if you need to build some strawmen to make that argument, you better get busy rounding up some more hay. >>

He really does argue like a child doesn’t he? And he creates more straw men than Obama. It’s like beating your head against a wall. Until I read his page, I really did think he was in middle school or high school and just starting to get interested in politics. I really did assume that, just based on his public postings.

Obviously you thought the same thing.

Glad to see the exact same


130 posted on 11/20/2011 10:02:25 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
And as you have pointed out, they LOVE Herman Cain, who obviously is very fond of Newt. They seem to question how anyone could say anything nice about Newt...unless it's Herman Cain. If only a gullible, idol-worshipping idiot could say anything nice about Newt...how can you be in love with Cain? LOL

Oh, and didn't Cain write a piece endorsing Romney last time?! ROMNEY! YIKES! LOL
131 posted on 11/20/2011 10:06:33 AM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: Anita1

Different time. GOP RINOs rule that roost. I would change Reagan’s 11th Commandment to read “Thou shalt not speak ill of other conservatives”.


132 posted on 11/20/2011 10:22:58 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: Anita1

Different time. GOP RINOs rule the Republican roost. I would change Reagan’s 11th Commandment to read “Thou shalt not speak ill of other conservatives”.


133 posted on 11/20/2011 10:23:27 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: GLDNGUN

Now just stop it with that logic. Give the common sense a rest. There’s no place for that kind of reasoned perspective around here!!!


134 posted on 11/20/2011 10:25:40 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: dools0007world

>> I would change Reagan’s 11th Commandment to read “Thou shalt not speak ill of other conservatives”. >>

Actually, many people take Reagan out of context here. He always spoke ill of liberal Republicans in primaries and off years. His commandment was once the GOP had nominated their man or woman - that then thou shalt not speak ill. He went after Gerald Ford and the Rockefellers and others darned hard in other times.

So in that way, Reagan agrees with your sentiment.


135 posted on 11/20/2011 10:34:08 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: hosepipe

“SHE is the actual “Grizzly Momma”..”

SHE is a backstabbing, CHEAP imitation of the actual Grizzly Momma...and has been since the ACTUAL Grizzly Momma got her re-elected, whereupon she declared HERSELF Queen of th TEA Party.
Michele Bachmann is an ambitious pol with a stilletto out for anyone who gets in her path. No more, no less.
She lied from the moment she entered this race and lies every time she is interviewed. Pay attention.


136 posted on 11/20/2011 10:40:42 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Should be blasting him on this...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2810027/posts


137 posted on 11/20/2011 10:54:43 AM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Go Bachmann!


138 posted on 11/20/2011 11:51:54 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Thanks. I appreciate the insight.


139 posted on 11/20/2011 12:09:08 PM PST by dools0007world
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To: independent in tx

Yeah, that doesn’t fly with me. Being fine with a baby being murdered because they were conceived under horrible conditions makes no sense.

Thanks for letting me know though.


140 posted on 11/20/2011 12:40:35 PM PST by MiddleEarth (With hope or without hope we'll follow the trail of our enemies. Woe to them, if we prove the faster)
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