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Online Furor After Police Pepper-Spray Demonstrators at UC Davis
TIME Magazine ^ | 11/19/2011 | Nick Carbone

Posted on 11/19/2011 2:52:50 PM PST by NetLiberty

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To: GeronL

The professionals are now involved. First they appear to be nice people who are concerned about thier country, you know joe next door tammy down the road all putting an innocent humanitarian face to the protest. Once they have everyones attention they give the order for the professionals to provoke a response from the police and the media is waiting in the wings to record every brutal minute of it. Oh the organizations invovled want this to turn into a greece event badly


21 posted on 11/19/2011 3:06:23 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: svcw

I wouldn’t doubt that either. Like the guy who was “run over” by the motorcycle, sure he was.


22 posted on 11/19/2011 3:06:53 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: NetLiberty

From what I read earlier they were NOT peaceful protesters but were attempting to block the police from transporting protestors who had been arrested. So they were interfering with arrests already made. Cops had some choices: let the arrested go, bring out the billy clubs with limited police presence, jump in and hope none of those in this set up were waiting to kill a cop, etc or take the least dangerous, least violent method open for resolving the problem.


23 posted on 11/19/2011 3:07:24 PM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: NetLiberty

“Don’t know about all of you, but this is excessive and unnecessary police brutality. “

The “protestors” were informed that if they did not move, they would be sprayed.
They chose to stay, purposefully and after being fully informed.

If you choose civil disobedience, be prepared for the consequences.


24 posted on 11/19/2011 3:08:52 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: I cannot think of a name
K-9s ~ ?

I'd bring in one of those tracked vehicles ~ they are quite impressive up close and you don't need to go all the way into squarshing someone to convince the others they should move.

I'd still like to know the whole sequence of events. It's actually very unusual for the cops to just come up out of the blue and spray pepper spray on you. Frankly, in most of your more totalitarian societies they NEVER do that ~ they just beat you to death, or maybe shoot you. In Syria they'd all been dead Fur Shur.

So, we are talking about U.C. Davis ~ I'd think the cops would have started by firing potatoes at them from a Spud Gun.

25 posted on 11/19/2011 3:08:58 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: NetLiberty

Oh dear. Someone got sprayed with a vegetable mist. What a calamity. What an, um, moral outrage.


26 posted on 11/19/2011 3:09:34 PM PST by wideawake
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To: ronnie raygun

Like I said they will now spend millions, those paupers, to send their brownshirt ranks to DC to lay seige to the Capitol building for days. They want a confrontation. They will demand that the GOP lay down and pass everything Obama wants.

That is all this was. A shakedown and brownshirt campaign for Obama2012.


27 posted on 11/19/2011 3:10:12 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: cripplecreek
Give 'em the Comfy Chair!


28 posted on 11/19/2011 3:10:44 PM PST by WeatherGuy
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To: FlingWingFlyer
OC takes a little time to start working. I prefer stream over fog, but I would prefer almost any other type of force over OC spray.

I look at this as the police giving them one last chance to disperse. I don't think they wanted to arrest all those people and thought a shot of OC would help. They did get a couple to move.

29 posted on 11/19/2011 3:10:51 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: svcw

I heard about this incident on FOX radio.

The police repeatedly told these so-called protestors that force would be used against them if they didn’t stop blocking the sidewalk.

I’m tired of hearing about the “rights” of these protestors.....what about the rights of the OTHER students who needed to use the sidewalk to get to their classes?


30 posted on 11/19/2011 3:11:47 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The "Occupy Wall Street" losers should try occupying their local employment office. GET A JOB!)
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To: NetLiberty
"Again, I don't give a crap about some of their views, but this is just plain wrong. "

The only thing "wrong" is that it took so long for the city to move these people out of the way. Why is their right to protest more important than the right of the people who need to access the same area, the businesses that are obstructed, and the right of anyone walking the street to be free from intimidation?

You're not espousing "conservative principles" when you defend the rights of a self-appointed nobility to force everyone else pay for the damage they're doing and to be afraid to walk the public streets for fear of these, "peaceful protesters".

31 posted on 11/19/2011 3:13:02 PM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: NetLiberty
Don't know about all of you, but this is excessive and unnecessary police brutality

Well then go file a complaint or hire a lawyer for the VICTIMS...better yet, just go on down and join them at the barricades to express your solidarity with the VICTIMS of this unexpected and most brutal police brutality ever.
32 posted on 11/19/2011 3:13:24 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Obama is just the symptom of what is destroying the U.S.)
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To: WeatherGuy

They wouldn’t expect that


33 posted on 11/19/2011 3:15:46 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: NetLiberty

This was acceptable force used by the police for willful non-compliance to a lawful order. Much more extreme force could have been used, but chemical sprays are way down the list of possible methods.

Would you have preferred rubber bullets or water cannons? Pepper spray is hellaciously painful, but ultimately harmless.


34 posted on 11/19/2011 3:15:55 PM PST by fwdude ("When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve ...")
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To: NetLiberty
but this is excessive and unnecessary police brutality.

No, it is not. [Compare this to Syria]

35 posted on 11/19/2011 3:17:19 PM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: NetLiberty

Are you sure that you are on the right forum? You would probanly feel more at home at DU.


36 posted on 11/19/2011 3:18:41 PM PST by sport
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Only lazy leftist drug addicts have legal rights. The rest of us have no rights, only a legal obligation to accommodate their every whim.


37 posted on 11/19/2011 3:18:41 PM PST by wideawake
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To: WeatherGuy

Squad Leader: Simon Phoenix! Lie down with your hands behind your back.

Simon Phoenix: What’s this? Six of you. Such nice, tidy uniforms. Oh I’m so scared!

[the Police Officers look at each other]

Simon Phoenix: What you guys don’t have sarcasm anymore?

[Police Officer talks to his automated assistant]

Squad Leader: Maniac has responded with a scornful remark.

automated assistant: Approach, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, “or else”.


38 posted on 11/19/2011 3:19:28 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: NetLiberty
Let them have their fun, after all they are just kids....

20 years down the road it will be:

Mr. EGPWS sentenced to death after returning to his home and after finding a peaceful protester had entered didn't allow him to remain sitting in his living room LazyBoy and protest for the rights of those unable to afford a homestead to get a taxpayer paid for homestead.

39 posted on 11/19/2011 3:19:42 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: NetLiberty

How long were these people told they were breaking the law and had to move?
If never told and they did that I would consider that a reason to get people fired.
If they were told for a while to move out of there and they defied the rules of that area and still stayed and got prayed, well what could they expect?


40 posted on 11/19/2011 3:22:59 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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