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To: C. Edmund Wright; Syncro
From a Biblical perspective, you could make both cases.

No, it is a misunderstanding of Jesus' teachings that leads to that conclusion because He often didn't specify restitution be made upon forgiveness because it was presumed under Torah. He NEVER contradicted Torah. Accordingly, repentance must be followed by payment or restitution. That is where Syncro's examples apply: David paid, Moshe paid, Samson paid. According to Torah, the thief must return his booty plus 20%.

I have never seen Newt repent of his infidelities, much less seek to make them right with the women he wronged. Yet here we are, considering elevating him to our principal leadership? Look at how he has whirled from issue to issue, Global Warming, Carbon Trading, Mandated Health Insurance... and he claims to be a conservative? You believe that? What did he claim to his prior wives? Is he truly believable now?

There was a reason for a death penalty for infidelity for the damage it does to succeeding generations. It leads to standards of acceptance that divide families and raise children fatherless and faithless, a process that necessarily spirals a society into the abyss.

As we have seen.

96 posted on 11/19/2011 11:03:40 AM PST by Carry_Okie (In the GOP, desperation is the mother of convention.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You made one case, but that does not preclude the other. You also mixed up personal redemption and God’s use of very flawed and sometimes even non believers (Nebudchadnezzar) for national causes.

I agree, your case can be made. Where you and I differ is that I have the humility to understand the other case can also be made.

You also seem to think that YOUR seeing of personal repentence - as if he would come to you personally - is some kind of litmus on whether he has or not. In addition to being incredibly arrogant on your part, you are ignoring the fact that at least one of his ex wives has apparently forgiven him and supports his run as does the child they had. If it’s good enough for them, why not you? Just sayin....

All of which is still potentially irrelevant, because you are mixing personal and national situations IMO anyway.

Of course, I’m sure you’re happy with Mitt or Barack or Bill Clinton because they are not divorced. Knock yourself out. Now, never mind that they will all want a government that will infringe on your right to live your life and your faith the way you want — but hey — they are not divorced.

Maybe pick a President on what he or she will do to you, NOT what they have or have not done within their own family. That’s between them and God.


100 posted on 11/19/2011 11:12:07 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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