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A $553,000 piano controversy in Maryland? [Broke state buys 32 Steinways]
Washington Post ^ | 11/17/2011 | Michael S. Rosenwald

Posted on 11/17/2011 8:51:59 PM PST by freespirited

Edited on 11/18/2011 9:51:41 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Does Bowie State really need $553,000 worth of new pianos? More specifically, Steinway pianos, the cr

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: bowiestate; spending; steinway
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To: smokingfrog
My heart is all a flutter . . . ..

I am saving for a Fazioli. Now there boys and girls is a PIANO! Entry $86,000 or you can get the Sequoia Burr wood with mother of pearl and precious stones for $409,000. Thank God this school didn't think precious stones and pearls were a requirement for their black brothers and sisters.

21 posted on 11/17/2011 9:37:16 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Decent electronic makes have support from their manufacturers for decades. I know because I just sold a 20 year old Roland HP2700 and it sounded and played like new, though the case had some wear and tear. In that time, I spent maybe $300 for maintenance parts, some of which were improvements over the originals.


22 posted on 11/17/2011 9:38:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: Milton Miteybad

Steinway is the best piano ever built. Good investment. Aspiring musicians will want to buy one for themselves. :)


23 posted on 11/17/2011 9:38:23 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: P-Marlowe

Some of the best piano recording I’ve ever heard was by Turiasound in the sixties. It was from a Baldwin.


24 posted on 11/17/2011 9:40:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Anyhow the article says “or designed by Steinway” which sounds like Chinese make instruments, even if using Steinway specifications.

Well, in that case they got ripped off.

Those pianos are not worth rebuilding. They last maybe 10 years then you have to throw them in the fireplace.

25 posted on 11/17/2011 9:43:31 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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Apropos of nothing...

The Fun Theory - The Piano Stairs (YouTube)

26 posted on 11/17/2011 9:44:57 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: goldstategop

No doubt they are a good investment. As to whether Steinway is the best piano ever made...my understanding is that there is a sincere difference of opinion. For some, Steinway is the only piano they would ever want. For others...a Steinway is what they play until they can afford to trade up to a Bosendorfer.


27 posted on 11/17/2011 9:45:56 PM PST by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: freespirited; All
Gov. Martin O’Malley, a noted musician.

A noted musician? That's a bad pun and a gross exaggeration. Marty Owe'Malley is a carpet-bagger politician who just happens to have or have had a band (O'Malley's March - they play Irish music). His musicianship is at best mediocre. He's a noted musician like ØbaMao is a noted "constitutional scholar".

If Marty ever decides to leave politics (HA!), he better not count on being a "noted musician" for a day job!

I'm a disgruntled resident of Maryland - as well as a multi-instrumental musician, vocalist and luthier - and I am counting the days 'til I can call another state home! Bugger off Owe'Malley!

28 posted on 11/17/2011 9:46:35 PM PST by Ten Beers Gone ("There's battle lines bein' drawn...")
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To: P-Marlowe

Yeah, Young Chang by Steinway or some such thing.

You might get a good piano by chance out of a Chinese factory, but there are so many variables.

Personally I almost wish I could find another upright Huntington (Shelton, Connecticut around the turn of the century). I learned on one of those puppies until it had suffered enough basement floods that it literally fell apart. But I’ve been too spoiled by the sustain pedal of conventional grands since. It really does make great effects, holding massive chords while doodling around in the upper register, possible.


29 posted on 11/17/2011 9:49:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: P-Marlowe
Fazioli give Steinway a run for their money with the sounding boards from the same wood in the Italian alps as the Stradivarius violin and it is also a hand made instrument. Steinway's sound is a bit brighter.

But ya know having to choose is a good place to be. :-). Let me be there.

30 posted on 11/17/2011 9:49:39 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Some of the best piano recording I’ve ever heard was by Turiasound in the sixties. It was from a Baldwin.

Baldwin. Made in the USA.

One of the most amazing intstruments I ever had the pleasure of working on was a Muhlbach piano made in Saint Petersberg Russia (before the commies took over). It was a 5'2" baby grand that had a really really powerful sound. It was just amazing. We couldn't figure out how they did it. It sounded like a Steinway B and was a foot shorter. It had a really cool action that made regulating it a 10-15 minute operation.

The best designed piano ever made IMHO was the pre-depression Mason and Hamlin B.

31 posted on 11/17/2011 9:50:20 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: freespirited

It’s not THEIR money, after all. WHAT DO THEY CARE?


32 posted on 11/17/2011 9:52:36 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: P-Marlowe

With my tin ear, I probably couldn’t tell the difference.


33 posted on 11/17/2011 9:53:27 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Glenn Gould preferred Yamaha. He’s not going to get any arguments from me.


34 posted on 11/17/2011 9:54:29 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: GOP Poet
Steinway's sound is a bit brighter.

That is why most top end recording studios have Steinways (or Yamahas). The soft European sound is nice for your living room but it doesn't record well. Steinway is a bit harsh in the middle registers but that it what makes it record so well. In a small room setting it can be a bit grating. If I wanted to just have a piano for casual playing, I think I might prefer the European sound. Kawaii is built on a European stringing scale. It has a softer and more bell like quality. Yamaha uses a similar scale to Steinway.

35 posted on 11/17/2011 9:55:52 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
a gaggle of Rolands

Be still my heart. :)

36 posted on 11/17/2011 9:56:36 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: P-Marlowe
excellent points. I have a baby grand Kawaii that I play daily, but as a singer, who accompanies myself, I don't want too bright of a sound. However. When I am playing classics and without voice I like the brightness.

I had my guy voice it with a bit more brightness and it is a great compromise.

Love your information. I have a large room and high ceilings and it just occurred to me this is partially why that brightness works so well. The acoustics are excellent.

37 posted on 11/17/2011 10:02:58 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: GOP Poet

I know.... :-)

If I sound a bit nuts for Roland, it’s because I’ve had great experiences with them, ever since they stepped into the truly realistic piano emulation world around 1990 with their “ASA” simulation. The early Rolands from that era were built like tanks too, and it showed in the sound quality from the cabinets. The patents from that time have expired, and still I don’t hear the equal from Yamaha, and some of the other digitals out there frankly sound like dirt. In the meantime Roland finally figured out a more durable design for their little bitty buttons (that had little plastic legs inside that broke after about a thousand operations or so). Also they figured out that they should filter the make-up air that goes into the otherwise clever velocity sensing switches, because a bit of dust will delay the first contact and BAM! it sounds like you hit the key with a hammer.


38 posted on 11/17/2011 10:08:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (bloodwashed not whitewashed)
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To: P-Marlowe
One of the most amazing intstruments I ever had the pleasure of working on was a Muhlbach piano made in Saint Petersberg Russia (before the commies took over). It was a 5'2" baby grand that had a really really powerful sound. It was just amazing. We couldn't figure out how they did it. It sounded like a Steinway B and was a foot shorter. It had a really cool action that made regulating it a 10-15 minute operation.

Wow. What a fantastic experience. Also what a wonderful knowledge base you have of the piano and clearly a love as well.

39 posted on 11/17/2011 10:09:08 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: GOP Poet

I’ve always loved the middle register on the Kawaii. It has a sweet quality that is very pleasing to the ear. Steinways are built to be heard in the back row of a concert hall. Kawaii’s are built to sound really good in a smaller room setting. IIRC the total string tension on a Kawaii is several thousand pounds less than Yamaha or Steinway.


40 posted on 11/17/2011 10:22:41 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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