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To: moovova; wintertime

We’re way, way past the point where a small number of parents or concerned individuals can change the public school system. Perhaps in some small, very small towns or rural areas, that are solidly conservative, it might be possible - a little.

There are so many reasons why they cannot be changed I can only enumerate a few:

1. Federally mandated crap.

2. Textbooks that are larded with ultra leftist garbage.

3. The majority of teachers are not conservative at all, teachers’ colleges are notorious for being ultra lefitst.

4. Administrators are even worse.

5. GLSEN and other pro-homosexual garbage in public schools - good luck getting rid of them. “Days of Silence” is the tip of the iceberg.

6. The biggest teachers’ union is nothing but a vile nest of hardcore ultra leftists.

7. The philosophy and methodology of public school instruction is meant to create drones and sap the vitality and desire to learn from students, as well as make rational and critical thinking stunted. It’s the content and the method.

8. Public schools’ purpose is ultimately to inculcate a secular humanist world view.

The examples I’ve read on FR of parents not being notified about controversial outings, assemblies and classes is huge - transsexuals are fine, but NO mention of God. God is verboten, learning about sodomy is mandatory. And Globull warming, and twisted history, and on and on.

Discretion is the better part of valor, and public schools can only be fixed when the Department of Education is eliminated and eveyrthing to do with educated goes back not just to the state, but the local communities. Then people will have a say in how their children are educated (other than taking them out and educating themselves while still paying tons of money into the system they don’t use, which is abhorrent); and not until then.


133 posted on 11/17/2011 4:09:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

You’re in a state with a teacher’s union, I’m not. Please speak for yourself and not everyone.

I’ve seen a couple of folks who have posted about the problems you claim are huge in public schools. Huge would mean posts amounting to at least as many as this thread has generated - I seriously doubt you can prove such a dubious statement.

You don’t like public schools, that’s fine with me. Others disagree with you, that should be fine with you.


138 posted on 11/17/2011 4:56:45 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: little jeremiah
Discretion is the better part of valor, and public schools can only be fixed when the Department of Education is eliminated and eveyrthing to do with educated goes back not just to the state, but the local communities. Then people will have a say in how their children are educated (other than taking them out and educating themselves while still paying tons of money into the system they don’t use, which is abhorrent); and not until then.

Can I persuade you to see that government education can not be fixed on any level?

Even if school districts were the size of a city block or a suburban housing development, government force and the voting mob would still be in play. It would still be a socialist service except on a lower level. There would still be problems with government violations of the First Amendment. The religious worldview at best would be lukewarm and generic, and the children would still be learning to be comfortable with government taking their neighbor's money for a tuition-free socialist service.

The only type of community schooling that I would approve would be ( possibly) an HOA agreement among homeowners of a development. Those buying into the development would know before purchasing that part of their homeowner organization fees would go toward the neighborhood school. This is a completely private agreement and only private funds are used. There would be no government force involved.

172 posted on 11/18/2011 4:23:07 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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