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Cali to Business: Get Out! (Firms flee CA's senseless regulations, confiscatory taxes)
City Journal ^ | 11/17/2011 | Steven Malanga

Posted on 11/17/2011 6:45:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 11/17/2011 6:45:57 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

lost cause?


2 posted on 11/17/2011 6:49:58 AM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SeekAndFind

Somehow neglected in this article is the fact that Mexifornia will soon be speaking English as a second language.

Shove it, CA, you’re doomed. Just lay back and wait for the “big one”.


3 posted on 11/17/2011 6:51:58 AM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Give kalifornicator back to mexico.


4 posted on 11/17/2011 6:53:54 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: SeekAndFind

bump


5 posted on 11/17/2011 7:07:38 AM PST by Christian4Bush (PSA. As of 11/17/11, 355/430 days 'til we vote out/take out the trash. (11/6/12, 1/20/13))
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To: GeronL

Lost Cause?......

Why have a Rib eye and a baked potato when you can have a tortilla and black beans


6 posted on 11/17/2011 7:12:24 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just wait until Utah or Texas is charged a Federal surtax to help the less fortunate states.


7 posted on 11/17/2011 7:24:21 AM PST by PeaRidge
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To: SeekAndFind

Soooo, Utah, Wyoming, and Nevada are GOING to being ruined by the same people that ruined Mexifornia..

Those states had better put the National Guard on their borders..
The “disease” is spreading..


8 posted on 11/17/2011 7:32:50 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: SeekAndFind

A certain radio personality repeatedly describes liberalism as a mental disorder. I always thought that was a nice read meat insult and never took it seriously...until recently. How else do you reconcile a whole state repeatedly shooting itself in the foot...on purpose!

I see the same mentality now taking over nationwide as Obama pursues the same illogical policies that knowingly dampen employment (Obamacare, Dodd-Frank...)and reduce our supply of cheap energy. At a time when China is aggressively locking up supplies of energy and metals worldwide, we are purposefuly and daily performing self-sabotage. After all this, Democrat politicians are the ones that have the chutzpah to accuse GOP politicians that THEY are the ones praying for a slowdown in the economy!


9 posted on 11/17/2011 7:35:08 AM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it’s both better, and worse, than the article maintains.

On the “better” side, there’s no better place than the coast of California in the world to set up shop if you need talent. If you are in a business that requires extremely smart and hardworking professionals, there are a heck of a lot them there. Moreover, the allure of living in California is such that any position you can’t fill locally, you can persuade pretty much anyone from anywhere in the world to move there, as long as the salary is right.

Also on the “better” side is the fact that, inland from the Coast, direct costs of business aren’t that high, particularly when you factor in proximity to the talent markets on the coast, the ports and airports, etc. LOTS of warehouses, relatively cheap housing for your owkers, and inexpensive hard working unskilled and semiskilled labor.

On the “worse” side of course is the implacable hostility of regulators to physical production / manufacturing businesses (other than agriculture, which is politically protected), the high corporate tax rate, the high income tax rate, the high property tax rate for purchases and improvements (Prop 13 only protects current owners of existing structures).

I think California’s demographic changes are actually in the “remain to be seen” category. I don’t see the rising generation of Hispanic politicians as tending towards the kind of disastrous thinking that led the African American politicians who took over many big cities in the 1960s and 1970s. They’d like to have their cake (a productive private sector paying taxes) and eat it (strong labor regulations, high public expenditure on social benefits and education) too, but there’s no detachment from reality.

All but the most radical know that tax rates are at upper bounds, and that public spending is likely to have to decline. Frankly, I much prefer the young Hispanic politicians — whom political reality requires to be highly sensitive to their small business owner and private sector employee constituencies, and balance their concerns with those of the public employee union bosses who try to call the shots — to the Democrats representing White and White/Asian districts, whose noisy constituents tend to be toally addle-brained liberals. The Hispanic politican’s constituents have to live in the real world — the richer white liberals simply don’t.

First, the work force access you have in California for certain business remains unparalleld.


10 posted on 11/17/2011 7:47:28 AM PST by only1percent
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To: SeekAndFind

bookmark


11 posted on 11/17/2011 7:51:15 AM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT.


12 posted on 11/17/2011 7:52:42 AM PST by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: only1percent

You forget one of the great gifts California has that most states don’t have ( other than Hawaii ) -— GREAT WEATHER ALL YEAR ROUND.

That alone makes it a great place to live. But then any God-given gift can be made irrelevant if the people and their government ruins everything.


13 posted on 11/17/2011 7:59:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind (u)
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One thing the article touched on, but didn’t go to deep into is the infrastructure problems that are becoming too apparent to ignore.

CA has neglected the maintenance of roads, choosing instead to build tinker toy high speed rail and subways and at the same time, shutting down access to energy.

This affects businesses as well.

I live here, but trust me, it ain’t because of the weather.


14 posted on 11/17/2011 7:59:17 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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RE: CA has neglected the maintenance of roads, choosing instead to build tinker toy high speed rail and subways and at the same time, shutting down access to energy.

________________

To those living in California, the high-speed rail project is now estimated to cost 3 TIMES its original estimate.

$98 Billion is the LOW BALL FIGURE !!

Good luck paying for it with your taxes or borrowing... OOOPs... I forget, OTHER STATES might be forced to chip in.


15 posted on 11/17/2011 8:04:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Da Coyote
Just lay back and wait

But they're not just "waiting." Kalifornians are some of the most corrupt, obtuse, invasive creatures on the planet. They've totally screwed up their state, and now are moving to the rest of the country to spread their disease. They've destroyed Oregon, Wash State, Denver, Boulder, Tulsa, Austin, Knoxville, Nashville, to name a few.

They're also a primary reason our public educational system is so perverted as the rest of the nation looked to them for innovations in teaching.

16 posted on 11/17/2011 8:12:32 AM PST by LouAvul
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To: SeekAndFind

And it won’t get any cheaper either.

The subways in LA are being paid for by folks who will never use them, it’s just the “CA way”.

The “revenues” are coming in under projections, something like $5B per month under(SURPRISE!!!), the deficit is growing, the spending is not slowing.

Train wreck dead ahead.


17 posted on 11/17/2011 8:20:49 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: only1percent

And when the cost of power skyrockets because of more California regulations and the rolling blackouts start because power plants are shutting down, how productive will that talent be?


18 posted on 11/17/2011 10:11:06 AM PST by Truth29
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To: GeronL
lost cause?

I firmly believe so, and it saddens me a bit, because I was born and raised in CA, and most of my family still lives there.

Politically, CA is long gone.

19 posted on 11/17/2011 11:28:34 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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First, the work force access you have in California for certain business remains unparalleld

Great, but with the current tax burden out there, along with excessive regulation and hair-trigger opportunities to drag businesses to court...

I'd say, "thanks but no thanks." Far better opportunities exist elsewhere.

20 posted on 11/17/2011 11:34:44 AM PST by ScottinVA (I miss America.)
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