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Newt Gingrich, on the rise, says, ‘Hopefully, I’m going to be more disciplined’
Washington Post ^ | Wednesday, November 16, 2011 | Karen Tumulty

Posted on 11/16/2011 7:33:03 PM PST by presidio9

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To: RockinRight
So those of us who have watched Newt playing footsie with Leftists and pushing big Gov't programs for everything the last 10 years should just give him a pass? Why don't you look into this pro Global Warming POS Newt wrote and then get back to me on whether we should be critical of the dude.


41 posted on 11/17/2011 1:04:50 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Right. Newt did some great things and then some really, really dumb things. He suffers from hubris and greed, but pretends not to.


42 posted on 11/17/2011 2:19:41 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: BillyBoy
Ah, but freepers can ignore their careeer record and engage in blissful fantasies.

Heck, one pro-Newt poster told me the other day that anything he said or did before 2009 is "irrelevant" and it it's all OK now because he's changed his positions, which is perfectly all right since all politicians do it. Seriously.

So much for the sacred process of vetting our candidates.

43 posted on 11/17/2011 3:19:52 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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To: RockinRight
"Newt is smart, quick on his feet, a good debater, but otherwise is a genuine phony."

9 posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2011 2:56:09 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)

44 posted on 11/17/2011 3:24:13 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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To: BillyBoy

I was referring to Perry, of course, and thought he was your candidate. If he’s not, I apologize.


45 posted on 11/17/2011 3:38:17 AM PST by IL1949
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Gingrich is embarrassing.

As we've discussed, the field is rather limited. My first option is a new candidate chosen by convention. Realistically ... ... ... ... ... ... ... I guess Cain.

46 posted on 11/17/2011 4:11:49 AM PST by Crichton
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To: Dave W
The contest is now between Newt and Mitt

If that were the case I would go out and campaign for Mitt. In spite of everything.

47 posted on 11/17/2011 4:15:50 AM PST by Crichton
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To: Crichton
Candidate chosen by convention? Why - you don't believe conservatives and republicans are doing so right now?

There are reasons Gingrich is polling higher, why Cain has dropped and why Perry is done. A convention won't change those facts. Nor will it magically mean Sarah Palin wins a convention.

48 posted on 11/17/2011 4:20:55 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Solson
Candidate chosen by convention? Why - you don't believe conservatives and republicans are doing so right now?

No. Because I could easily pick out 10 well known candidates I would prefer to the field we have. And if one of those candidates were in the race they would walk away with it.

I don't need a perfect conservative (though it would be nice to come close for once). A competent, honest, right-of-center type like Mitch Daniels would do fine. Like the character Mitt plays on TV.

49 posted on 11/17/2011 4:29:56 AM PST by Crichton
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Disagree entirely. Gingrich is the most conservative candidate in the field with national level experience and the ability to walk into the oval office TODAY!

As for his “history,” he’s asked for forgiveness, publicly, and the American people are forgiving. And that is showing in the polls. And why? Because at this particular time in our history when every American knows this country is in serious trouble the citizenry is craving leadership. And Newt is a leader. In addition, we want to hear what the plan is to get us out of this mess so we can determine whether we believe in it and we need a leader who can explain it in a way we can all understand. Is Cain doing that? No. Is Cain acting like a leader right now? No. Is he acting like a rookie doing the best he can to keep his head above water? Yes. Is he a great communicator like Newt? No. Does Cain have a sense of history? If he does he’s certainly not using it to his advantage like Gingrich is. Does Cain understand judicial supremacy, when it began and why it began? No. Has Cain challenged any debate moderators who’s goal is to incite infighting between our candidates? No. And there’s a good reason for it. He doesn’t have the experience, savvy or aggressiveness to pull it off. Gingrich does. Does Cain have any sense of foreign policy? No. Does Cain have a political network in place should he win the presidency? No.

So what does Herman Cain bring to the table? He brings a charismatic personality, a conservative POV, a couple of degrees and some success in the business world. Does that qualify him to run for president? Yes. Does that make him the best choice in this field? No.

You bring up Newt’s age. How old is Cain? Do you even know? All the people leaving Cain are going to Gingrich. Do you know why? All the people who’ve left Perry are going to Gingrich. Do you know why?

I hear Dennis Miller just pulled his support from Cain. I read that, I cannot confirm it. If true, not good. Not because Dennis Miller is anyone special but because he has national visibility. Has Cain received any congressional backing to date? Has Gingrich? Has Cain received any high level Tea Party backing to date? Has Gingrich?

You say Newt had his chance and blew it big time. Really? When? Certainly not currently. His rise is being timed and will peak at the right time. I don’t recall Newt running for president before so what are you talking about???

Summing up, Cain is one-dimensional compared to Gingrich. Cain may be “qualified” to be president but he is NOT qualified to fundamentally change the direction of this country. Gingrich is. He’s proving it. He’s verbalizing it and we understand what he’s saying. And we agree with what he’s saying. And that’s why Newt’s numbers are rising and Cain’s aren’t.

You have much to learn...


50 posted on 11/17/2011 4:46:10 AM PST by IL1949
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To: IL1949
You have much to learn...

Let me refer you to #44

51 posted on 11/17/2011 5:24:27 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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To: IL1949

IL1949 posts - “”Cain may be “qualified” to be president but he is NOT qualified to fundamentally change the direction of this country. Gingrich is. He’s proving it. He’s verbalizing it and we understand what he’s saying.””

Can you explain how what Newt says today jives with what he said in 2010, when he was backing Dede Scozzafava over Hoffman, the Tea Party candidate?

I can. Newt is a POLITICIAN. Newt says what he needs to say to get elected.

Will he be able to sell his latest conversion? So far it sure seems to be working. Especially with the all the help from the StateRunMedia, his Establishment Republican friends and that “forgiving” electorate with selective amnesia.

There is no doubt that Newt is very quick witted, exceptionally well spoken, (good Lord, I would hope so - after all that is what he has done to pay the bills his entire adult life!), and it is my sincere hope that he will agree to put his considerable knowledge and intellect to good use working in the next Conservative administration, but President? No.

No more professional politicians please. They made this mess, and I am not buying that NOW they are just the guys to fix it.

And the election of Herman Cain would indeed fundamentally change the nature of politics in this country, just by accomplishing it. The change would be where it matters the most, sending the message to everyone that the eyes of the American people were finally open.

May God guide our course.
Tatt


52 posted on 11/17/2011 5:41:56 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Of course we have to vet the guy, but, what are we going to be left with?

Romney, that’s who. He’s a RINO, but he’s such a finger in the wind guy that he hasn’t done anything controversial enough to make a news headline.

I’d still take Newt over Romney, no question.


53 posted on 11/17/2011 5:48:01 AM PST by RockinRight (One year from now, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: 1010RD

This is true.

However, most of Newt’s good things were legislative successes in Congress, where his dumb things were just books or media appearances.

So, when it comes to governing, he’s more conservative than most.


54 posted on 11/17/2011 5:49:12 AM PST by RockinRight (One year from now, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Oh, come on. The only people who handed Clinton a second term were Dole (by proxy) and the RNC.

Was he supposed to beg Clinton NOT to go along with welfare reform and the balanced budget?


55 posted on 11/17/2011 5:55:33 AM PST by RockinRight (One year from now, we have an opportunity to take our nation back.)
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To: Paperdoll
Newt has stood up for himself very well. His decision not to trash Romney is also the smart thing to do. Most American voters do not like people who try to rise to the top by trashing others. Newt can and will simply out class Romney in every area and already has.

When Newt is attacked first, that is when he rips the attacker a new orifice from which to stuff their duly rendered political waste material for personal storage.

Romney knows better than to even try such a thing. He not only greatly respects Newt, he is smart enough to know that he would immediately lose the first battle.

All eyes are on this brilliant and changed man, Newt Gingrich. And America is ready to vote for substance over past rhetoric or image.

56 posted on 11/17/2011 5:56:58 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: presidio9
Gingrich allowed that self-control has not exactly been his strong suit in the past. “That’s true,” said the man who once accused President Obama of having a “Kenyan, anti-colonial” worldview. “Hopefully, I’m going to be more disciplined.”

Speaking of Newt's past. The Many Egregious Flip-flops of Newt Gingrich .

57 posted on 11/17/2011 6:05:37 AM PST by McGruff (Hold the House, retake the Senate.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yes, Newton is all talk and no action. But anybody can fool Republican primary voters. But they like to “take turns”; so Newt might get nominated in 2016.


59 posted on 11/17/2011 6:19:12 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Timber Rattler
All you prove here is that Newt has had a lifelong career and the experience that few candidates will ever have in politics. He is greatly respected by both sides. His past influence and knowledge of the opposition is not a bad thing. Even they cannot deny common sense and logic, which is how Gingrich has had an impact.

He apologized for the bout on the couch with Pelosi and admits that his main interest is to represent Conservative principles above all else. I can believe that his sincerity is real. He has been proving it daily. And I can forgive him for his past.

Obviously, you cannot. And for someone who has such a smear log against Newt, how is it that you have only been a forum member for mere month or so? You must be a retread.

60 posted on 11/17/2011 6:32:20 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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