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To: Kid Shelleen

He complained in the 2000’s about conduct that allegedly happened in the 1970’s and the prof is now retired. I’m not defending Penn State, but this case is very different from Sandusky’s.


8 posted on 11/16/2011 2:26:23 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
He complained in the 2000’s about conduct that allegedly happened in the 1970’s and the prof is now retired. I’m not defending Penn State, but this case is very different from Sandusky’s.

The only difference is that it happened earlier. This stuff was never spoken about from young boys or even men back then.

The difference is that now boys can speak about this more readily as it is more in the news so they can sort of leave more direct hints. It is difficult for any of these kids or even men to come straight out with this vile treatment. Humiliating.

These boys and men would eventually have come forward.

There is NO difference except time.

17 posted on 11/16/2011 2:33:43 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: colorado tanker
He complained in the 2000’s about conduct that allegedly happened in the 1970’s and the prof is now retired...this case is very different from Sandusky’s.

What?

Neisworth' status when complaints brought forth: Retired from Penn State

Sandusky's status when overwhelming bulk of complaints brought forth (all but the '98 couple of cases): Retired from Penn State (he was retired by June 1999)

Question #1: Why did you even mention "the prof is now retired" if that is NO DIFFERENT in most of the Sandusky charges?

Question #2: How is the retirement status -- which is the same for most of these cases -- something that "is very different from Sandusky's"???

Wanna make a retraction?

He complained in the 2000’s about conduct that allegedly happened in the 1970’s...

Let's get more specific (& more laser-like here):

"the 2000's" could be 2009 for all anybody knows reading your comments. But it was 2001 when he first confronted Neisworth and 2002 when he notified Penn State's admins.

"the 1970s" could be 1970-1971 for all anybody knows reading your comments. But it was "the late 1970s into the early 1980s"...so 1980...1981...and perhaps 1982, then?

There...what you on the surface presented that could be as far apart as 39 years...
...suddenly gets telescoped to its reality of perhaps only 19-20-21 years [complaint 2001; Penn State notification 2002; abuse as late 1981-1982]

Way to knock off a couple of decades in your lame attempt to say "this case is very different from Sandusky's.

When you look @ the Grand Jury presentment, it mentions "victim #7" (p. 20) meeting Sandusky in 1994. This victim says because he always moved away from Sandusky, the coach was never able to do more than put his hand on his thigh and down his waistpants (not at genital area). The presentment doesn't say what year this occurred...but if this occurred in 1994 and it came out in 2010 or 2011 that's a span of 16-17 years between the acts and the complaints.

Question #3: Tell us, 'Tanker...what's "very different" 'tween...
...a Sandusky complaint brought 16-17 years after the fact...
...vs. a Neisworth complaint brought 19-20-21 years after the fact?

Talk about inadvertently defending Penn State despite your claim "I'm not defending Penn State." You need to retract the whole ball of wax.

34 posted on 11/16/2011 4:00:36 PM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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To: colorado tanker

The MO of the supervisors is the same. It is showing a pattern of cover up and accomodation for boy rape pervs.


41 posted on 11/16/2011 5:01:14 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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