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If You’re Stopped At a Red Light, Are You “Driving”? [Using cellphone]
The Volokh Conspiracy ^ | November 15, 2011 | Orin Kerr

Posted on 11/16/2011 12:15:28 PM PST by QT3.14

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To: AuH2ORepublican
Speaking on the phone does not REQUIRE that you take your eyes off the road

How many people use a blue tooth device? How many stop, input the phone numbers, and then begin driving again? Having a law does not stop behavior. However, if a person elects to engage in a behavior that a reasonalbe person would conclude can lead to causing injury to another person, that person should be held accountable for that decision, period. The laws regarding using a cell phone (without hands free devices) is one I agree with.

By the way, have you EVER been behind, or witnessed, some of these people who are using their cell while driving and without a blue tooth and are weaving all over the road? Some people are incapable of multi-tasking, let alone walking while chewing bubble gum. Frankly, I don't want people using their cell phones while behind the wheel in traffic, even at a stoplight, unless they are utilizing blue tooth technology. We'll agree to disagree on this issue.

101 posted on 11/17/2011 9:48:23 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: BobL

Not only that, I posted that parade of horribles to provide examples of other behavior that is just as “dangerous” as driving while speaking on the phone; I oppose not only such hypothetical laws, but also bans on driving while holding a cell phone.


102 posted on 11/17/2011 9:51:47 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: SoldierDad

Making a phone call where you are inputing the numbers REQUIRES that you take your eyes from the road.


But the law doesn’t merely prohibit placing calls (which can actually be done with voice dialing). It also prohibits receiving calls, and merely talking on the phone (such as if a passenger handed you a call in progress).


103 posted on 11/17/2011 11:39:52 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Oh, that’s a good one. I’ll have to try that.

I usually keep walking and never go back (if I can help it).


104 posted on 11/17/2011 11:42:08 AM PST by Betis70 (Bruins!)
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To: Beelzebubba
But the law doesn’t merely prohibit placing calls (which can actually be done with voice dialing). It also prohibits receiving calls, and merely talking on the phone (such as if a passenger handed you a call in progress).

And? Use of a hands-free device will solve the problem. There is NO need for a driver to be on a phone where they must hold the phone with their hand. I hold no sympathy for those who are not using a hands-free device.

105 posted on 11/17/2011 11:50:25 AM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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Actually hands free devices don’t help at all. What they’ve learned analyzing the accidents is the problem is not the hand off the wheel, it’s the brain off the task. People are focusing on the conversation and not paying attention to what’s going on in the world around them. And unlike talking to a passenger the person on the other end of the phone isn’t in the car and has no ability to pay attention when the driver isn’t and yell “RED LIGHT”.


106 posted on 11/17/2011 12:47:20 PM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

“I oppose not only such hypothetical laws, but also bans on driving while holding a cell phone.”

Same here...but I do draw the line with women texting while driving. That has to be stopped!!!


107 posted on 11/17/2011 3:45:26 PM PST by BobL (Send Rove a Message, VOTE CAIN, no matter what)
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To: discostu

Some can multi-task - some can’t!


108 posted on 11/17/2011 5:35:10 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad

Some can multitask. Some can drink and drive safely too. But we have to write laws for the majority, and the majority can’t multitask effectively or drive drunk, that’s why the accident stats for those groups are nearly identical.


109 posted on 11/18/2011 7:33:25 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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