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To: Former Proud Canadian
I don't understand your post.

OK, let me boil it down.

Why not build the pipeline from Canada to TX through oil friendly states instead of just defaulting to China?

40 posted on 11/14/2011 8:10:51 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
Why not build the pipeline from Canada to TX through oil friendly states instead of just defaulting to China?

Nebraska is not the culprit here. The state already has over 20,000 miles of pipelines. It's the federal government that's the problem.

Moreover, the XL pipeline is Phase 4 of a 4-phase project. The XL line is being built to a junction with two other Keystone pipelines at Steele City, NE. From there, the oil will move to the Wood River, IL refinery complex (across the river from St. Louis) over a line that was completed a year ago. And it will also move south to Cushing, OK -- the major pipeline junction point in the USA -- from whence it can be sent on to the Texas Gulf Coast...or diverted just about anywhere else in the country.

In other words, Keystone doesn't have the option of re-routing the whole thing. They've already built a system to accept the oil -- and to use it, they've got to get to Steele City, NE.

45 posted on 11/14/2011 9:34:43 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
There are more forces in play than just whether or not and when the US will allow the pipeline to be built. If the Keystone is delayed, shippers who have committed to use the pipeline will look for alternatives because they want to ship their oil. They are not on Obama's political schedule. If someone develops an alternative route to terminals in Prince Rupert and then to China, that's where the oil will go. Economic forces are not going to wait for Obama.

TransCanada worked on this route for years. All the approvals up to this level have been made. They have purchased most of the land. Pipe is actually in place in warehouses along the route, ready to go. This is truly a "shovel ready" project, except no government money is involved. It would take two years to build the pipeline.

It will now be delayed at least a year, and several years if they have to re-route it. The oil has to flow. It is apparent that it is going to flow west to Asia, not south to the US.

49 posted on 11/15/2011 4:34:28 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, or the jobs that go with it.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Question is — the argument says if we don’t approve the pipeline the oil will go to China. How can we be sure it wont cross our country and end up in foreign ports anyway, like the timber from the forests of the northwest — cut down and shipped out. In some cases we bought back. A lot of money exchanging hands in those deals.


63 posted on 11/15/2011 1:33:55 PM PST by TiaS
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