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To: Bigtigermike

Here is what Cain said, minus Allapundit’s spin (who has always been anti-Cain)

His words:

“I would have done a better job of determining who the opposition is. And I’m sure our intelligence people had some of that information. Based upon who made up that opposition… might have caused me to make some different decisions about how we participated. Secondly, no I did not agree with (Moammar) Gadhafi killing his citizens. Absolutely not. I would have supported many of the things that they did to help stop that.”

Cain said the question of America’s involvement in Libya was not a simple yes or no question. “I would have gone about assessing the situation differently. It might have caused us to end up in the same place.”

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On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively.

“But not collective hijacking. What I mean by that, if they have gotten so much for so many years and it’s going to bankrupt the state, I don’t think that’s good. It appears that in some instances, they really don’t care.”

http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/cain-backs-collective-bargaining-for-public-employees-l931tg4-133828808.html
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CAIN IS NOT PRO UNION

Herman Cain at the I Stand with Scott Walker rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII
Employee Free Choice Act is really forced unionization
The federal government impedes economic growth by interfering in the employer and employee relationship. While labor unions once provided a representative body to lobby for fair wages and safe working conditions, they now principally serve as a political mechanism for the Left. Forced unionization through the dishonestly named “Employee Free Choice Act,” or “card check,” would drive up the costs of goods & services, cause jobs to be lost and a more powerful system of liberal fundraising to be maintained.
Source: Campaign website, www.hermancain.com/ “Issues” , May 21, 2011

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Card-Check is union intimidation, not free choice
When someone takes the time to actually read the proposed “Card Check” legislation (H.R. 800), you will discover that many of the proponents of this legislation have lied.

Currently, the employees vote directly twice, one of which is the secret ballot, and a third time through their bargaining representatives. Under the proposed rules, the employees would sign a card and then they are totally out of the process from that point on. Proponents think that’s “free choice.”

Proponents have also alleged that employers intimidate employees into not joining a union. That’s ridiculous, because most employers work at trying to keep their workers happy for competitive reasons and because it enhances employee morale. I personally know of many more stories of union intimidation of employees than instances of employer intimidation.

Workers have every right to unionize if they choose to do so, but employers have some rights also. They have the right to simply shut the doors.
Source: Political column, THE New Voice, “Card Check Lies” , Feb 9, 2009

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Union Bosses Unleash On Herman Cain For Targeting Unions’ Sacred Cows
To qualify for zone status under Cain’s plan, a given jurisdiction will have to enact policies the unions consider anathema – such as the elimination of the minimum wage, the provision of school vouchers, or the declaration of a zone as a “right-to-work” area.

Leading figures in organized labor swiftly attacked the Cain proposal.

Teamsters General President Jim Hoffa told Fox News in an emailed statement: “Herman Cain’s ‘Opportunity Zones’ appear to be an opportunity for corporate America to exploit workers and turn the United States into a third-world country.”
http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/10/20/union-bosses-unleash-on-herman-cain-for-targeting-unions-sacred-cows/
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Cain stumbles on Libya question (Also, Backs Collective Bargaining for Public Employees)
Mon Nov 14 17:40:10 2011 · 5 of 52
justsaynomore to TitansAFC

Herman Cain at the I Stand with Scott Walker rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII
________

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijx6ryJtvII
Employee Free Choice Act is really forced unionization
The federal government impedes economic growth by interfering in the employer and employee relationship. While labor unions once provided a representative body to lobby for fair wages and safe working conditions, they now principally serve as a political mechanism for the Left. Forced unionization through the dishonestly named “Employee Free Choice Act,” or “card check,” would drive up the costs of goods & services, cause jobs to be lost and a more powerful system of liberal fundraising to be maintained.
Source: Campaign website, www.hermancain.com/ “Issues” , May 21, 2011

_________

Card-Check is union intimidation, not free choice
When someone takes the time to actually read the proposed “Card Check” legislation (H.R. 800), you will discover that many of the proponents of this legislation have lied.

Currently, the employees vote directly twice, one of which is the secret ballot, and a third time through their bargaining representatives. Under the proposed rules, the employees would sign a card and then they are totally out of the process from that point on. Proponents think that’s “free choice.”

Proponents have also alleged that employers intimidate employees into not joining a union. That’s ridiculous, because most employers work at trying to keep their workers happy for competitive reasons and because it enhances employee morale. I personally know of many more stories of union intimidation of employees than instances of employer intimidation.

Workers have every right to unionize if they choose to do so, but employers have some rights also. They have the right to simply shut the doors.
Source: Political column, THE New Voice, “Card Check Lies” , Feb 9, 2009

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Union Bosses Unleash On Herman Cain For Targeting Unions’ Sacred Cows
To qualify for zone status under Cain’s plan, a given jurisdiction will have to enact policies the unions consider anathema – such as the elimination of the minimum wage, the provision of school vouchers, or the declaration of a zone as a “right-to-work” area.

Leading figures in organized labor swiftly attacked the Cain proposal.

Teamsters General President Jim Hoffa told Fox News in an emailed statement: “Herman Cain’s ‘Opportunity Zones’ appear to be an opportunity for corporate America to exploit workers and turn the United States into a third-world country.”
http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/10/20/union-bosses-unleash-on-herman-cain-for-targeting-unions-sacred-cows/


18 posted on 11/14/2011 3:21:08 PM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

Bump


35 posted on 11/14/2011 3:44:22 PM PST by NoLibZone (Sexual Harassment:men touching themselves while wearing only jock straps,gyrating on a parade float)
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To: justsaynomore
On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively.

Calling all Cain Supporters -- is this really an accurate representation of Herman Cain's Position on public employee collective bargaining? Because I hate to argue the point only to have a half-dozen of you show up and claim that it isn't his position at all.

50 posted on 11/14/2011 4:04:35 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: justsaynomore

bttt


56 posted on 11/14/2011 4:09:58 PM PST by petercooper (2012 - Purge more RINO's.)
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To: justsaynomore

No one has to spin anything on Cain. He proves his is NOT ready and anyone can see it in the videos of him trying to answer about foreign and domestic policy. A child can see this, how he has no clue and gets confused and mixed up. He continues to have the deer in the headlights look on way too many questions. Cain is not ready and may never be.


151 posted on 11/15/2011 1:19:15 AM PST by Katarina (Rick Perry the Best man for President ! NEVER Romney! And no thank you Cain.)
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