Well, in your opinion, is Mitt Romney representative of the good Mormon? Do Mormons tolerate the immoral, godless liberal/socialist/progressive policies foisted on the good people of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and our nation by Governor Romney? Or are he and his ideological twin Harry Reid just rare examples of the evil side of Mormonism?
And no, I'm not a Gingrich supporter. He's smart and good at debating, but he's a RINO and I wouldn't trust him for dog catcher much less the presidency. He's down near the bottom of my list of eligible *cough* Republicans just before Ron Paul. Romney at the very bottom, of course, tied with Giuliani for when hell freezes over.
This is all I want to say how I feel and what is in my heart and let the Lord guide this nation not politics!
I believe there more of God’s children in this great nation that will do the right thing in spite of what politicians do
It is what is going on in the heart land that will open doors to lift the burden that has been placed upon us that is the cure.
Love thy neighbor as we love ourselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3SSdmoEyuI&feature=related
I’m Trying to Be like Jesus
With commitment
35395, Children’s Songbook, The Savior, I’m Trying to Be like Jesus, 78–79
1. I’m trying to be like Jesus;
I’m following in his ways.
I’m trying to love as he did, in all that I do and say.
At times I am tempted to make a wrong choice,
But I try to listen as the still small voice whispers,
2. I’m trying to love my neighbor;
I’m learning to serve my friends.
I watch for the day of gladness when Jesus will come again.
I try to remember the lessons he taught.
Then the Holy Spirit enters into my thoughts, saying:
Chorus
“Love one another as Jesus loves you.
Try to show kindness in all that you do.
Be gentle and loving in deed and in thought,
For these are the things Jesus taught.”
Words and music: Janice Kapp Perry, b. 1938
BUMP!
Ditto!
Well, in your opinion, is Mitt Romney representative of the good Mormon? Do Mormons tolerate the immoral, godless liberal/socialist/progressive policies foisted on the good people of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and our nation by Governor Romney? Or are he and his ideological twin Harry Reid just rare examples of the evil side of Mormonism?
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Actually, Mitt is much more the rule rather than the exception of Mormonism. I found out the hard way that many more Mormons are like Mitt and Ried than aren’t. There are complex cultural and theological reasons for this that I can go into but they tolerate Mitt and a lot of other things from their ‘priesthood holders’.
I’m pinging some other freepers who will probably say similar things.
“Well, in your opinion, is Mitt Romney representative of the good Mormon? Do Mormons tolerate the immoral, godless liberal/socialist/progressive policies foisted on the good people of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts and our nation by Governor Romney? Or are he and his ideological twin Harry Reid just rare examples of the evil side of Mormonism? “
As Reaganaut implies, figuring out what is going on in the mind of an upper echelon Mormon priest/powerbroker is a crap shoot because you are dealing both with the hubris of their believing they will become gods along with a long institutional history of victimology purposely used to make sheep of Mormon followers. Mix in a vengeful and cultish concept of blood atonement (which shuns or ostracizes non-believers, they used to kill them) and you get a boiling pot of inner resentments and inhibitions that make these guys potential time bombs. The question of whether they are faithful to their wives and have nice kids doesn’t help when you are caught up in a whirlpool of crazy cultural superstitions and paranoias under some Bishop’s leadership (I’ve been tee a number of times).
It would be like going to New Guinea and meeting a well dressed tribal spokesman who half a dozen years before had been a headhunter. You just know the translation of cultural norms may not be what you think they are, you are looking through a multifaceted prism.
Joseph Smith was driven out of Kirtland in part for a bank grifting scheme. In Far West Missouri he becomes a general with a thousand man army with raiders burning Douglas County - a massacre of Mormons by state militia is averted only at the last second before a cavalry charge and Smith is jailed. In Nauvoo, Smith has another army and takes on the aspects of a general before he is killed in a shootout at the jail (he was armed.) Brigham Young takes them to Utah and starts his own mini-war and develops the blood atonement concept which is enough to make anyone paranoid.
So you have to ask yourself, were all the “oppressors” of Mormons, in state after state,crazy bigots, or did they rightly get upset when they felt they were being rolled over by a Mormon Borg machine? In all the Mormon apologist literature, there is NEVER an admission that they did anything wrong, though their leader was a known womanizer and peepstone grifter. My personal experience in business and politics in Mormon Nevada leads me to believe Mormons instigated as many problems as not in the early years and many of those cultural quirks still exist just below the surface.
So you ask whether Reid and perhaps Romney are rogue actors? Well if you have followed the Warren Jeffs tales and how he has now gone nuts and started a paranoid clampdown on his followes, you have an idea of the types of bizarre currents that are running beneath the surface of a guy like Romney (Reid for sure has a dual personality but may be just insane, I know more about him than anyone).
Now, is Romney as crazy as Warren Jeffs? That’s not what I’m implying. But does Romney have weird subsurface personality conflicts that come from trying to become a perfect god, combined with a long family history of ties to the cloistered victimology of traditional Mormons, well you betcha. Does this affect his motivations for becoming president? You bet his personal aspirations for godhood also play a part of this, as well as his poorly hidden arrogance (he IS better than the rest of us, he HAS to be to get his planet).
So the question for conservatives to ponder, given all the other problems we have to deal with, why would we want to endure these deep seated psychological misgivings in a candidate, plus elect a RINO, when we are at a critical juncture in American history and about to go over a cliff?