[gogogodzilla]

Tell us just how there was a logical progression for Greece to now have an appointed prime minister? or even worse, Italy also not only having an appointed prime minister but also a completely appointed government with all the powers, with the elected government utterly sidelined?

And you've yet to show how the Germans *MADE* the Greeks and the Italians do anything. It should be easy to show Germany's use of force.

And physical force is the *ONLY* way you can *MAKE* anyone do anything.

[Olog-hai]

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And you've yet to show how the Germans *MADE* the Greeks and the Italians do anything. It should be easy to show Germany's use of force.

And physical force is the *ONLY* way you can *MAKE* anyone do anything

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Oh? So you would need to be physically forced into paying a speeding ticket if you get one? If a cop intends to pull you over, you would have to be forced off the road physically and won't stop your car until he does something like use tire spikes or a PIT maneuver? If that's how you see things, then you have a very narrow way of viewing things. I guess things like economic blackmail (e.g. "you don't take these loans, we impose economic blockade on you and you can't get to trade with the rest of the eurozone bloc, wrecking your economy still further") don't enter your worldview. You're a very interesting person, to say the least . . .