Posted on 11/12/2011 1:07:35 PM PST by KantianBurke
A last-ditch drive ends in disappointment for Penn State, which loses to Nebraska, 17-14. Not having any timeouts crippled the offense, which completed two passes short of a first down, including one with seconds left, but couldn't stop the clock.
This is a different Saturday in State College. Immediately after McGloin's final pass fell incomplete, the Penn State crowd cheered the team's effort: the cheering grew to a roar as the two teams again met a midfield, such as they did right before the game.
Again, as occurred several times during the game, there were chants of "We love JoePa." Interviewed after the game, interim coach Tom Bradley said that what Penn State has gone through over the last week is "unprecedented in the history of college sports."
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Perfect!
:) great pic
ESPN has been sickening in it’s coverage of this game, imo. Apparently, we are supposed to admire what Penn State has overcome..how tough this week has been for the school and community. It really is a disgusting display.
re: this post
(we’re on the same side) :)
Go ahead and answer the questions I put to the other poster in #466, or retract your statement and apologize.
Ahhh, yes. At the end of the game the crowd was indeed chanting that as the players left the field. In my view it was done for the following reasons: to salute the seniors as it was their final home game, to recognize the players' hard effort under difficult circumstances (that they did not create), and because it's standard practice which has existed prior to this week (the players exit right under the student section).
I caution you against reading into actions without understanding the history or context.
“from the facts as we know them another 5-10 people in positions of authority enabled him.”
You might want to up your numbers a tad there. Read the grand jury document. Draw some very simple inferences. Its going to be a blood bath. “Joe Pa” didn’t “lawyer up” on a whim.
NittanyLion,
I’m sorry that I offended you “personally”.
(Even though most of us are anonymous on FR.)
Still, I hope and pray that you examine your heart over what appears to be blind loyalty to a team and/or school.
(IMHO)
oops, wasn’t finished and accidently double posted.
Except when certain posters wish to conveniently link a football program to the actions of a few, in which case it is apparently about morals. But the minute the program attempts to make a statement supporting morality, these same posters will label it opportunistic and inappropriate. In essence, they're damned if they do and damned id they don't.
And before you ask0 I would have a BIG problem praying for the PREDATORS/criminals in church. That’s wrong there, IMO. You don’t pray for evil. You don’t understand evil. You eradicate it, you cast it out. You do not defend a thing unless you are OF it.
And no one was praying for / supporting any predators yesterday either. Arguments about whether you'd pray for God's intervention to change the hearts of predators can be best saved for another thread.
And those who chanted FOR Paterno have taken the wrong side in this good/evil scenario. I didn’t say everyone present chanted for him. Anger at how things were allowed to develop??!! Things regarding WHAT? CHILD RAPE! Pedophilia! CRIME. The ‘how’ isn’t as important as the ‘what’!So those fans think it is- and that’s reasonable? Do you think it is??
In essence, the near-unanimous views of Penn Staters are this:
1. Paterno appears to have known what went on and should have been fired
2. The Board of Trustees / PSU Administration's lack of comments early last week allowed the media jackals to direct all their furor at paterno.
3. This is due to the fact that the BoT and Administration is (rather transparently) attempting to divert attention from their own (in)actions
4. The BoT fired Paterno via a phone call, which reflects quite poorly on them
5. It is true at the same time that Paterno failed but also that he was unfairly targeted and ripped in this situation
As I mentioned before, it's important to understand the context before making blanket statements about actions.
I wonder if there would be all of this understanding and rationalization if the fans on the OPPOSING side had demonstrated AGAINST Paterno? What if they had brought mention of a CRIME into a game?? Nice little chants, or signs,or anything bringing the ugliness of what happened into a game?
We'll never know. No point in speculating either way.
You know and so do I. The howls of ‘unfair’ and ‘keep football out of this’ would be deafening Ok-then WHO didn’t keep IT out of football??
I don't agree. I could easily see it going in either direction.
“the near-unanimous views of Penn Staters are this:
1. Paterno appears to have known what went on and should have been fired”
So you admit that, AT THE VERY LEAST, Paterno covered up for a child rapist. And yet, as evidenced by the title of this thread, Penn Staters were chanting that they love him to say nothing of engaging in a full blown RIOT after he was fired! You people are coo coo for coco puffs.
[At the end of the game the crowd was indeed chanting that as the players left the field. In my view it was done for the following reasons: to salute the seniors as it was their final home game, to recognize the players’ hard effort under difficult circumstances (that they did not create), and because it’s standard practice which has existed prior to this week (the players exit right under the student section).
I caution you against reading into actions without understanding the history or context.]
The context was the players were kneeling in prayer. Say what you will, but it looked classless on the fans part.
Thank You!
My last word on all of this- and how everyone I know feels( even football fans)- you’re a Stand Up or a Bend Over.
Trying so hard to be ‘fair’ to the adults in this, trying to rationalize and refocus so that they are the ‘victims’ somehow makes you a Butt Buddy. In theory or practice.
Now we’ll all wait as the ugly details emerge and see who ends up on Butt Buddy list.
Odious- and criminal.
What is ironic about this is you think we deify the guy when you're the ones claiming he's omniscient and omnipotent.
Considering how in 2004 he was able to tell the University President, then requesting he retire, to mind his own business and thus retain his coaching job, that’s not too far off the mark. He was certainly “untouchable” which is ironic seeing what ended up causing him to get canned.
You don't think that maybe, just maybe, that kid is pulling a hoax?
You really think that Sandusky, in the middle of the Grand Jury proceedings, went down to South Carolina last spring just to talk to this kid and without the coach, the AD or his father knowing about it?
Where are all the other students saying Sandusky approached them on recruiting calls?
I'm more than willing to throw JoePa under the bus but based on the Grand Jury report, the AG statements and his observed relationship with Sandusky since 1999, he looks clean for now.
Graham Spanier is Penn State, unfortunately, and I think he'll be for awhile longer despite his being fired.
And say what you will, I don't agree. From the perspective of someone who was actually present in the stadium, it appeared to be a nice gesture.
Exactly...it was a “gesture”.....symbolism-over-substance...empty.
A real “gesture” would have been Penn State canceling the game...sure they would have lost a lot of money....but it would have been more convincing.
Unfair to the players...yes....but any injustice done to them pales in comparison to the injustice done to those boys.
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